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Old 05-27-2019 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Wasn't he in Tin Cup standing next to Phil Mickelson betting David Sims that Roy McAvoy could make the shot? Or am I confusing him with the head of security for the law firm in Memphis that Tom Cruise and Gene Hackman worked for?
He says “Dia-Beetus.”
Old 05-27-2019 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
He says “Dia-Beetus.”
Quite similar to the "Die-ya-bah-tees" diagnosis by Dr. Spah-chem-in on 30 Rock, right?? 😁
Old 05-27-2019 | 05:15 PM
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I wish we could rock beards.
Old 05-28-2019 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
I've been wondering when someone will press to test this one. On religious grounds of course, which would then knock over the whole 'no beards' house of cards. I mean, look at those reckless KLM and Lufthansa pilots... what do they know about aviation?
Or, a little closer to home....how about Alaska?
Old 05-28-2019 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Beards will not seal tho amirite?
According to the mask manufacturer's lawyer? Yeah, you're right. According to real life?... I volunteer as tribute to test it in a high altitude sim.
Old 05-28-2019 | 12:34 PM
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Unfortunate, the main beard guys have hair coverage that looks like a golf practice tee.
Old 05-28-2019 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluto
According to the mask manufacturer's lawyer? Yeah, you're right. According to real life?... I volunteer as tribute to test it in a high altitude sim.

From the internet...


Until last year, Air Canada and several other airlines required pilots to have a clean-shaven face. Air Canada reasoned that in the case of in-flight emergency, a clean-shaven face was necessary to ensure a proper seal on an oral-nasal face mask.

In fall 2016, however, the airline retained Sherri Ferguson, director of SFU's Environmental Medicine and Physiology Unit, and her team to research the efficacy of face masks on different beard lengths.

"We had two objectives," says Ferguson. "First, we had to determine if present-day equipment used in the Canadian commercial airline industry delivers sufficient oxygen to protect a bearded pilot from hypoxia during an emergency cabin depressurization scenario."

Hypoxia occurs when the body does not receive enough oxygen and can cause damage to the brain and other organs minutes after symptoms appear and render a pilot incapacitated or unconscious.

"Secondly, we had to find out whether the mask provides sufficient protection against carbon monoxide and toxic fumes should the cabin become smoke-filled from fire."

The researchers divided research participants into three groups: those with a small amount of facial hair such as stubble (less than 0.5 cm in length), those with medium sized-beards and those with long beards (up to 40 cm).

Wearing masks supplied by Air Canada, the participants were put into a hypobaric chamber, which simulated altitudes from 10,000 to 25,000 ft above sea level. The researchers measured the participants' oxygen saturation levels at every altitude change, because a drop in the oxygen saturation levels would indicate the masks are leaky and unable to maintain a proper seal.

For the second test, the researchers used stannic chloride, which causes watery eyes as well as a burning sensation in the lungs, in order to create conditions similar to fire smoke.

The researchers found no adverse effects on bearded subjects within the two parameters of the study, and that the masks maintained protection, irrespective of varying amounts of facial hair.

The study provided the basis for Air Canada to change its facial hair policy for aircrew and now permits a maximum length of 1.25 cm and neatly trimmed
Old 05-28-2019 | 01:15 PM
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Re: beards, stolen from an identical discussion on the AA forum -

Originally Posted by Hank Burley
They are allowed but only if accompanied by a man bun. AA doesn’t allow half ass hipsters.
Pretty much sums it up for me.
Old 05-28-2019 | 01:34 PM
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I oppose them because then #reservebeard would lose its luster.
Old 05-29-2019 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Gspeed
I oppose them because then #reservebeard would lose its luster.
Agreed. Allowing beards devalues the relative QOL for WB reserve. It may also discourage senior pilots from bidding reserve, because they could now fly with a beard. As previously mentioned this opens the door to manbun. Protect the #reservebeard

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