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Old 09-16-2020, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE View Post
Word on the street is they are going to take a page from the "Thank You" livery and paint a plane with "F@#$ You" with all the 1941 names of the furloughs on it.

#wecloseto200000yet?
well, there is probably only room for the 600 or so Names that they are cheating out of one months pay....

well...getting closer to that elusive 200 k number of posts, then I think that’ll be the end of the thread, much like the end of the internet....takes too long to load.
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by p3flteng View Post
well, there is probably only room for the 600 or so Names that they are cheating out of one months pay....

well...getting closer to that elusive 200 k number of posts, then I think that’ll be the end of the thread, much like the end of the internet....takes too long to load.
You need a new phone, computer, or tablet...my phone loads it no problem.

It could never go 500,000 could it????
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Old 09-16-2020, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish View Post
You need a new phone, computer, or tablet...my phone loads it no problem.

It could never go 500,000 could it????
You know..."To him that will, wais are not wanting." - George Herbert

Though my device might combust trying.
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Old 09-19-2020, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by p3flteng View Post
well, there is probably only room for the 600 or so Names that they are cheating out of one months pay....

well...getting closer to that elusive 200 k number of posts, then I think that’ll be the end of the thread, much like the end of the internet....takes too long to load.
it was only 275 or so who were losing a months pay (now 220 less) 600 were getting extra furlough pay b/c FM. (Everyone with less than 1 year gets 1 month Instead of 1/2 month)
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Gone Flying View Post
it was only 275 or so who were losing a months pay (now 220 less) 600 were getting extra furlough pay b/c FM. (Everyone with less than 1 year gets 1 month Instead of 1/2 month)
I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter View Post
I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.
I completely agree, the number of pilots affected was just off. FM has nothing to do with furlough pay and everything to do with scope. hopefully ALPA fights this, and I really hope they can win it.

side note if the 220 end up not getting furloughed then that only leaves 1 class shorted furlough pay, showing this was never about the pay aspect of it.
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter View Post
I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.
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Old 09-19-2020, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter View Post
I don't think it was ever about the furlough pay. The additional 1/2 month was a wash with the one month reduction. This was about declaring FM and using it to wipe our scope. The furlough pay adjustments were just part of that equation.

When does FM end? By what time, block hour or other metric does it automatically stop? There’s nothing in the PWA as far as I can tell that says once it’s declared that it can remain forever...or that it can’t.
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Old 09-19-2020, 08:03 AM
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When does FM end? By what time, block hour or other metric does it automatically stop? There’s nothing in the PWA as far as I can tell that says once it’s declared that it can remain forever...or that it can’t.
In the past that has been determined by an arbitrator/mediator in his/her grievance decision.

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Old 09-19-2020, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane View Post
In the past that has been determined by an arbitrator/mediator in his/her grievance decision.

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So it’s up to ALPA to decide when they think it should end and file a grievance?

I hope that it’s already been filed.
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