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Denny Crane

09-24-2020 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DLASFlyer (Post 3134851)

Customer here. I want to give a shout out to the two gentlemen who piloted Delta 2913 tonight. It was an Airbus 319. I was in 14A, right next to the number one engine which failed dramatically just before rotation. The pilots took off and leveled off before returning to SLC. We were airborne for 18 minutes and they even had time to make a reassuring PA. We stopped on the runway and were met by fire trucks. I was happy to learn the same crew was in command of the second try on a new aircraft.

I know you guys are going through hell with the prospects of furloughs and pay cuts. Performance under pressure and sound decision making like I witnessed tonight are why you guys deserve top pay and benefits. Keep your heads high.

Thank you for the shout out! Really glad everything turned out okay.

Denny

p3flteng

09-24-2020 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DLASFlyer (Post 3134851)

Customer here. I want to give a shout out to the two gentlemen who piloted Delta 2913 tonight. It was an Airbus 319. I was in 14A, right next to the number one engine which failed dramatically just before rotation. The pilots took off and leveled off before returning to SLC. We were airborne for 18 minutes and they even had time to make a reassuring PA. We stopped on the runway and were met by fire trucks. I was happy to learn the same crew was in command of the second try on a new aircraft.

I know you guys are going through hell with the prospects of furloughs and pay cuts. Performance under pressure and sound decision making like I witnessed tonight are why you guys deserve top pay and benefits. Keep your heads high.

Awesome of you to reach out with these kind words and appreciation to those fine aviators. It’s what we do, literally the justification for a high level of compensation. An old timer once told me crossing the pond that we aren’t really payed for the A to B stuff, we really earn and justify the paycheck in those few minutes of critical thinking and action in an emergency. Think and act incorrectly then, and bad things happen. We spend our lives training, practicing and preparing for those few crucial minutes.

It’s refreshing to hear appreciation from John Q. Public when something like this happens.
on behalf of behalf of those two Professional Delta Pilots, thank you.

Hrkdrivr

09-24-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DLASFlyer (Post 3134851)

Customer here. I want to give a shout out to the two gentlemen who piloted Delta 2913 tonight. It was an Airbus 319. I was in 14A, right next to the number one engine which failed dramatically just before rotation. The pilots took off and leveled off before returning to SLC. We were airborne for 18 minutes and they even had time to make a reassuring PA. We stopped on the runway and were met by fire trucks. I was happy to learn the same crew was in command of the second try on a new aircraft.

I know you guys are going through hell with the prospects of furloughs and pay cuts. Performance under pressure and sound decision making like I witnessed tonight are why you guys deserve top pay and benefits. Keep your heads high.

Thanks for finding us here and posting this. At risk of repeating my colleagues’ thoughts, when asked why were paid so well, I always reply when things go wrong, we’re worth every penny they pay us. And more, frankly.

Thanks again!

Sierra Hotel to the crew!

TransWorld

09-24-2020 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DLASFlyer (Post 3134851)

Customer here. I want to give a shout out to the two gentlemen who piloted Delta 2913 tonight. It was an Airbus 319. I was in 14A, right next to the number one engine which failed dramatically just before rotation. The pilots took off and leveled off before returning to SLC. We were airborne for 18 minutes and they even had time to make a reassuring PA. We stopped on the runway and were met by fire trucks. I was happy to learn the same crew was in command of the second try on a new aircraft.

I know you guys are going through hell with the prospects of furloughs and pay cuts. Performance under pressure and sound decision making like I witnessed tonight are why you guys deserve top pay and benefits. Keep your heads high.

When things are going smoothly, a computer could run everything. When things go bad, that is where experienced, trained, qualified pilots earn their keep. Just like heart surgeons.

MachJ

09-24-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DLASFlyer (Post 3134851)

I was happy to learn the same crew was in command of the second try on a new aircraft.

Please tell me this is incorrect.

20Fathoms

09-24-2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 3135346)

Please tell me this is incorrect.

Noticed that tidbit as well. Definitely not judging as they may have been fine and we are paid well to make that call, but the one time it happened to me I got significant pressure to head back out immediately in a different aircraft (I was at a different airline at the time). The FAs were shook up as hell and I decided it was the safest option for us all to be done for the day. Still think it was the right call.

sailingfun

09-25-2020 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 3135346)

Please tell me this is incorrect.

When you declare a emergency at Delta you cant fly another leg until after you speak to the duty pilot and tell him you and your crew are fine to continue. The default is you are done for the day.

PaulFooley

09-25-2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3135383)

When you declare a emergency at Delta you cant fly another leg until after you speak to the duty pilot and tell him you and your crew are fine to continue. The default is you are done for the day.

This was my experience when I experienced an engine failure shortly after takeoff on the first leg of a 3-day trip in 2011. Scheduling was ready to deadhead us out to re-join our rotation but the duty pilot stopped them and we were released from the remainder of our trip.

DLASFlyer

09-25-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MachJ (Post 3135346)

Please tell me this is incorrect.

It was the same crew, both flight attendants and pilots. They had plenty of time to walk it off going from the end of A to the old C gates in SLC :)

notEnuf

09-25-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulFooley (Post 3135431)

This was my experience when I experienced an engine failure shortly after takeoff on the first leg of a 3-day trip in 2011. Scheduling was ready to deadhead us out to re-join our rotation but the duty pilot stopped them and we were released from the remainder of our trip.

Scheduling generally doesn't know the circumstances for the schedule adjustment unless they are told by the pilot or duty pilot. They just do their job to cover flying. This is why the duty pilot call is a requirement. BTW both pilots independently have evaluate there willingness to continue, just as with any other fitness for duty scenario. Regardless of the pressures to continue serious thought needs to given to the ability to duplicate the outcome on the very next flight. At a previous employer they would just shut you down, no questions and no decisions, just policy. It gives you time to reflect and document which is a big part of what happens next.

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