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Old 02-21-2022, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Sorry, I meant OGG to ATL. I suspect however there will be more than a few tech stops in HNL for fuel.
Really? That seems like it would rapidly wipe out the razor thin margins that hyper-competitive market offers.
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Old 02-21-2022, 04:00 PM
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Really? That seems like it would rapidly wipe out the razor thin margins that hyper-competitive market offers.
It’s a 4000 mile trip off a 7000 foot runway. When I flew it to LAX in a widebody we needed a dry runway and 12 knots of headwind. I am told UAL flies it to EWR. It would be interesting to see their stats. I also suspect OGG has better yields than HNL.
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Old 02-21-2022, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
It’s a 4000 mile trip off a 7000 foot runway. When I flew it to LAX in a widebody we needed a dry runway and 12 knots of headwind. I am told UAL flies it to EWR. It would be interesting to see their stats. I also suspect OGG has better yields than HNL.
L15 used to do OGG/ATL. Anyone remember if it ever had any restrictions?
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Old 02-21-2022, 06:30 PM
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Not our problem. Aeromexico will be flying the route on a 787.
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Old 02-22-2022, 05:21 AM
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Not our problem. Aeromexico will be flying the route on a 787.
If business interests ever get cabotage restrictions lifted thru the US Congress, your hyperbole will be truer faster than you can say "Ay, Caramba!"
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Old 02-22-2022, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown View Post
Not trying to start a fight, or change any ideas that might come out of you guys brainstorming, but theres a couple things to keep in mind youre negotiating against.

For one, we as pilots arent negotiating against other pilot groups and we cant sell our services collectively to United. We dont get the kind of business relationship with management the guys who sell us fuel get. We won't either. They are the employer, we are the employee. I hate to offer this up because it will cause some other conversations, but the only way to fix that relationship with management is to have one union, one seniority list, across all unions. Probably wildly unpopular but i dont like bringing up problems without a starting place for a solution (even if unrealistic).
ALPA is an "Association", many confuse it as a "union" because they have the ability to negotiate a CBA like a "union" does, but that is pretty much where the similarities between a "union" and "association" end.
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Old 02-22-2022, 05:25 PM
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So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
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Old 02-23-2022, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360 View Post
So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
if you're already hired call pilot support and ask them.

If you're waiting for a class date any info given now is subject to change .
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Old 02-23-2022, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360 View Post
So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
I am sure anything is possible but it really restricts what you can fly. I don’t see Delta wanting to deal with it but the law may not give them a choice.
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Old 02-23-2022, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360 View Post
So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
Torpedoing your career before it begins is a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off.
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