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Doug Masters 12-23-2009 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 731655)
Maybe we should start self policing these issues instead of letting the company change the policies of our PWA. We used to do a lot more of that. It keeps the company out of it.

Blanket party??? :eek:

satchip 12-23-2009 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 731663)
Blanket party??? :eek:

Only with Super's coeds!

acl65pilot 12-23-2009 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 731663)
Blanket party??? :eek:

Sure beats getting benefits taken away because of a few. Ya know Pro Stan does a lot of work like this too!

Superpilot92 12-23-2009 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 731666)
Only with Super's coeds!

Thats what i'm talking about!!! \m/ Hook'em!!

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...eerleaders.jpg

iceman49 12-23-2009 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 731670)
Sure beats getting benefits taken away because of a few. Ya know Pro Stan does a lot of work like this too!

The question is why did the union allow it to be taken away because of the 2-3%s. I asked Steenland why they were trying to sack our sick leave policy...he said we had some individuals that abused the policy..my reply was to take care of the problem rather than using a the broad brush. Steenland than said, it was just an opening position, part of the negotiation.

TOGA LK 12-23-2009 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 731602)
And you guys wonder why we lost our great sick leave program we used to have??? :mad::mad:

You lost them because you voted yes to the worst major airline concessionary contract in history. You voted yes to a contract that preserved wide body QOL and essentially downgraded narrow body guys to FAR flying with almost zero scheduling efficiency (ex, 5 day trips worth 25 hours, 3 to almost 5 hour sits each day, 0600 report day 1, 1900 finish day 5). And when those below you got burned out in said environment, they call in sick, as they should (not fit to fly). I remember seeing 9 Captains with 9 to 10 days off a month, ***... Great airplane and schedule for slugging it out in a winter northeast, 21 days a month. Please... Get of your high horse.

capncrunch 12-23-2009 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Doug Masters (Post 731663)
Blanket party??? :eek:

"Did you order the code red"?

johnso29 12-23-2009 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 731567)
http://1.media.collegehumor.com/coll...1fffaabd85.jpg

28k recovery: It's like getting a titty twister from scheduling.

Careful now. If IC ALL sees this he'll label it as flamebait & give you an infraction. :rolleyes:

You too Super. Remember, he sees all.

Bucking Bar 12-23-2009 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 731703)
You lost them because you voted yes to the worst major airline concessionary contract in history. You voted yes to a contract that preserved wide body QOL and essentially downgraded narrow body guys to FAR flying with almost zero scheduling efficiency (ex, 5 day trips worth 25 hours, 3 to almost 5 hour sits each day, 0600 report day 1, 1900 finish day 5). And when those below you got burned out in said environment, they call in sick, as they should (not fit to fly). I remember seeing 9 Captains with 9 to 10 days off a month, ***... Great airplane and schedule for slugging it out in a winter northeast, 21 days a month. Please... Get of your high horse.

Gentlemen, he has a point.

In related news, the Rats at JFK made the cover story of the USA Today in their article about how unsafe airport food is.

IMHO life on the road is not nearly as healthy as getting the good food and rest that come with a more normal schedule. I very rarely call in sick, but I'm not going to criticize those who look at a revised schedule and decide they just aren't up to it. Pilots manage their rest and nutrition as best they can. But, when you throw them a curve (worst international example I heard of was 31 hours without rest) then some guys are going to make a GOOD decision and decide not to continue.

Most of us got into this gig because we like flying and we enjoy the work. Most of us aren't looking to get out of flying, particularly when re-routes tend to work out better for pay. But I've noticed guys who get 24K'd into the double red eye Manaus trip tend to nearly always sick out and frankly, that makes sense. Some airports have recommended precautions like Malarone pills and DEET which a pilot might not be carrying for a planned Seattle overnight.

forgot to bid 12-23-2009 07:19 AM

Police Called to Quell Unruly (DELTA) Passengers at J.F.K.

By A. G. SULZBERGER

As New York City airports struggled to recover from the crowds and delays caused by hundreds of canceled flights over the weekend, passengers vying to get on one overbooked flight at Kennedy International Airport became so angry that airport police had to be called in, officials said.

The episode occurred Tuesday morning when passengers — who had already been waiting two days to be put on a flight to Haiti, after their initial plane was grounded by the snowstorm — were told that the flight was overbooked and that they would have to wait another day. Some in the crowd responded angrily and the Port Authority police were called in to restore order, said Susan Elliott, a spokeswoman for Delta Air Lines.

“The crowds got very unruly,” said Steven Coleman, a spokesman from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. “People were yelling and screaming, and nobody at Delta wanted this to escalate any further.” He said that the scene was quieted within an hour.

The airline said it had added a second flight to Haiti on Wednesday to accommodate the remaining passengers, who have been provided with meals and lodging since the initial flight was canceled Sunday, Ms. Elliott said. “It’s been a challenging few days,” she added. “For the most part, passengers we deal with understand that we’re not in control of the weather.”

Over the weekend, 550 flights were canceled at Kennedy, 400 at Newark Liberty and 250 at La Guardia. The cancellations have created cascading delays through the busy holiday travel season. While there were no other reported scenes of passenger uprisings, the frustration was widely shared.

Two German tourists, Steffen Bromberger, 31 and Simone Ziebell, 29, were among the passengers who had been camped out at Kennedy Airport since Sunday night, when their return flight to Germany was abruptly canceled. Their luggage, however, did make it to Frankfurt — leaving them without provisions –- and the airline did not provide food or lodging. “In five years, we’ll be laughing about this,” Mr. Bromberger said. “But I do think it’s important to get home and get new underwear.”

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You should've seen the passengers on my flight to MSP the other day... content erased. No need to put our dirty laundry on the internet. :( Although I did post this article.... I guess I'm a hypocrite.


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