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Superpilot92 01-06-2010 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 739254)

Some how I got through, I told them I knew of an ER pilot in NYC and a MEM DC9 B pilot that I knew weren't flying and are available for whatever they need tomorrow night. :D

Cant, I'll be drinking ;)

Bucking Bar 01-06-2010 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 739254)
Got a call from an 866 number, it was Delta, canceling hudnreds of flights and expect extremely high volume to crew scheduling/tracking etc and so keep an eye on your schedule.

Recovery flying - here's a video of a pilot's call with CS on a 23K deal:


YouTube - Re Route in Manaus Flight [Visual Presentation]

forgot to bid 01-06-2010 02:36 PM

That bad Bar?

I just saw the oddest trip in 88 open time, deadhead to PHF for a 54 hour layover, 1 leg back, 17 hours, 2 hour block.

Bucking Bar 01-06-2010 02:43 PM

It is funny - you can sit on iCrew and watch them try to re route the Manaus flight and watch everyone call in sick until they finally give up and put it on a reserve.

As craptastic as the MD88 is, the schedules it operates are not that bad compared to the more "flexible" fleets. Kinda looking forward to it.

Fishfreighter 01-06-2010 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 739122)
I'd like to see their logic on what they feel about fences and how the SLI should be done (if it comes to that) and why.

I'm pretty sure DAL pilots would insist on widebody fences. Ratio with fences would probably be the end result.

FlyingViking 01-06-2010 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 739274)
I'm pretty sure DAL pilots would insist on widebody fences. Ratio with fences would probably be the end result.

We should insist on widebody fences. No AK pilot would have a chance of WB long haul flying so why should the merger change that? And why should people that fought hard to get into Delta accept that AK pilots gets in front of them on their way to the WB seat? Nothing but a permanent fence should be accepted, unless an AK pilot interviews with DAL and starts from the bottom just like the rest of us did. Pretty simple really.

slowplay 01-06-2010 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 739245)
I thought there was still a 30 something 76 seat jet gap between the fleet and max allowed. If you are correcting my mistake, sincerely - I thank you.

There is not. DCI currently is operating the maximum allowed number of 76 seaters (153, 101 CRJ-900 and 52 EMB-175). There are 66 CRJ-700 operating, leaving 36 aircraft under the 255 airplane cap. To grow the 76 seat fleet by one jet, management would have to add 33 mainline aircraft.

Model Citezen 01-06-2010 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 738948)
If this industry and this company don't start making money, then they will be able to plead poverty at contract time. We already make more in direct compensation than most of the industry, and despite all the negative changes we've endured over the last few years our workrules on balance are still better. You can look at the "tremendous gains" those tough unions at AMR and UAL have extracted from their unprofitable companies as a guide...:rolleyes: At DAL's investor day management correctly prioritized enhancing our revenue, controlling costs, and paying down debt with cash flow over the next three years. If they are successful in continuing to differentiate our business from that of our peers then we will see pay rewards. If not, we will be stuck in the same quagmire that envelopes our fellow pilots at other carriers that don't produce a suitable financial return. LUV, FedEx, and UPS don't pay their pilots more because they're better pilots or that management is more generous, it's because their business models throw off profits from which labor can extract value.




In a business sense Narita is identical to Frankfurt.

Delta was the second largest carrier in Frankfurt until Open Skies, serving that city from 9 different US locations with 15-17 beyond markets and 13 FRA based aircraft (767-200 and 727). Open Skies and the fragmentation brought on by hub busting point to point aircraft like the 767-300ER (for NRT the 787) killed the yield of the operation there. It was pretty hard to compete with Lufthansa once they had the UAL feed and a whole bunch more destinations and frequencies than Delta could offer. While any deal will stand or fall on its own merits, not having a corporate deal might not be so good for pilots.

Slo,
Where am I saying how GREAT UALALPA or AMR's APA are? What I am saying that there are some great expectations being fostered out there. There seems to be a big parade that this JAL/DAL hook up is a great thing..... I am wanting to see and read the details before I hop on a band wagon.

Was Frankfurt also slot controlled (like NRT)?
When was open skies in Europe vs Japan (Not Asia)?
When did UAL get the code share with Lufthansa?
Was not the 777 going to be the Pacific 767?
The 787 was to offer a smaller size 777 with longer range, better fuel economy, AND better maintenance intervals.


I truly due GET IT that any company must turn a profit. After this merger between DAL/NWA the pilots rates SHOULD HAVE matched or exceed AMR's rates at the time the deal was done.

For the record, Southwests pilots are where they are due to the chapter 11's in the 2000's by NWA, USAir, DAL and UAL. They were always under what the legacy's had paid. Their rates ,now in some cases, exceed wide body pay rates.

johnso29 01-06-2010 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 739294)
There is not. DCI currently is operating the maximum allowed number of 76 seaters (153, 101 CRJ-900 and 52 EMB-175). There are 66 CRJ-700 operating, leaving 36 aircraft under the 255 airplane cap. To grow the 76 seat fleet by one jet, management would have to add 33 mainline aircraft.


Will this # grow when the DC9-30/40's are parked?

slowplay 01-06-2010 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 739296)
Will this # grow when the DC9-30/40's are parked?

Of course. The baseline mainline fleet to add any 76 seaters is 768 jets. There are 33 DC-9-30/40 planned to be parked, so management would have to cover those losses with replacement aircraft and then add the number above to add 76 seaters,


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