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Superdad 01-06-2010 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 739342)
Well, that didn't take long. Love that "career expectations" argument.



Oh no! The voice of reason. Careful or you'll get a blanket party from your buddies.



Again there's your "career expectations" argument.

You know, if we had a real Union, instead of a Association of self-interest motivated MECs, we'd have a National Seniority List and all mergers would be strictly DoH.

Too bad the United gorilla gutted the Merger/Frag policy back in the days when they were trying to screw the USAir guys in their original abortive takeover attempt.

Oh well. If it makes you fellas feel any better, you can have all your widebody flying. The average Alaska pilot hates the idea of a DAL merger like poison.


Please explain to me why a guy who had NO CHANCE of flying a WB should slide in on top of me and get that spot because of a merger.

Any pilot who went to AK could have also been hired by DAL.

Ferd149 01-06-2010 05:01 PM

There is a thread over in the Merger section. This topic needs more AS guy input, should get it there.

FlyingViking 01-06-2010 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Superdad (Post 739339)
AK stopped hiring long before DAL began its last round so any SLI would expose a lot of junior DAL guys to an unfair outcome. Junior DAL pilots who worked hard to get here should have their career expectation of flying a WB preserved over that of a AK pilot.

Just like I said, could not agree more.

iaflyer 01-06-2010 05:03 PM

Was anyone in MSP to hear Dickson talk today? DeltaNet says the network planning guy talked too.

FlyingViking 01-06-2010 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Fishfreighter (Post 739342)
Well, that didn't take long. Love that "career expectations" argument.....Again there's your "career expectations" argument......Oh well. If it makes you fellas feel any better, you can have all your widebody flying. The average Alaska pilot hates the idea of a DAL merger like poison.

Well, the pilots does not make the decision of merger or not. And if all AK pilots share your point of view, the 30 year fence should be A OK and everybody should be happy and safe, career wise. My equal pay suggestion should make it better for all... Personally I hope we will work together in the near future, and I truly believe we both will be better off.

FlyingViking 01-06-2010 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 739350)
Was anyone in MSP to hear Dickson talk today? DeltaNet says the network planning guy talked too.

Can somebody please ask that guy why we are not flying to the Capital of Europe when CAL is increasing to 2 flights daily.

firstmob 01-06-2010 05:26 PM

When will we hear something official ref JAL?

n9810f 01-06-2010 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 739299)
Of course. The baseline mainline fleet to add any 76 seaters is 768 jets. There are 33 DC-9-30/40 planned to be parked, so management would have to cover those losses with replacement aircraft and then add the number above to add 76 seaters,

And unless I've missed an announcement, there is the fate of the NWA Boeing 757-5500 series fleet. I've got 19 755's flying right now, with 3 still stored at Marana. No one seems to know whether these planes are truly staying on or going the way of the DC-9-30's and 40's. But that's 19 or 22 more planes depending on how you look at it.

At last check none of these plans have been touched since the merger (paint, interior). But I keep hearing rumblings that these 755's will be staying through 2010 now...

forgot to bid 01-06-2010 05:50 PM

Off to the merger section, but I think its important to keep both threads going because I just don't want to leave the Clamp Show:

http://b4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/0...73309234_m.jpg

Look at him, he's got his volume I or II or his contract in hand and he's smiling because The Man is ready for anything that cometh his way. Wow. I wonder who and what he's got slated for the show tonight?

forgot to bid 01-06-2010 05:54 PM

From an hour ago... can we still get a JV with JAL if they go all Chapter 11 Japanese style?

Japan Air Falls on 1.13 Trillion Yen Restructuring Costs Report
January 06, 2010, 07:59 PM EST MORE FROM BUSINESSWEEK

Jan. 7 (Bloomberg) -- Japan Airlines Corp. fell the most in a week after the Nikkei said it may take a 1.13 trillion yen ($12.2 billion) restructuring charge in the year ending March and seek a court-led bankruptcy.

Asia’s biggest carrier by sales dropped as much as 8.3 percent to 77 yen in Tokyo trading and stood at that price at 9:46 a.m. The government-backed fund restructuring the airline also wants to reduce its financial burden by 730 billion yen through debt waivers and cuts in pension and bond obligations, Nikkei English News said, without citing anyone.

JAL may cut 10,000 positions over three years under the Enterprise Turnaround Initiative Corp. of Japan’s plan, according to the report. The airline is seeking financing from the state-affiliated fund for restructuring after posting three losses in four years.

“Bankruptcy concerns are escalating,” said Mitsushige Akino, who oversees the equivalent of $450 million in assets in Tokyo at Ichiyoshi Investment Management Co. “There are fewer and fewer investors who think the share price won’t drop toward zero.”

The fund intends to ask JAL’s lenders to waive 300 billion yen in loans and offer a debt-for-equity swap for other obligations, the Nikkei said. It may also provide 300 billion yen of capital, the report said.

JAL spokesman Taro Namba and a spokesman for Enterprise Turnaround both declined to comment on the report.


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