Possible but IMO not very probable. We will be set up very well for it after this bid is complete. (not saying, just sayin...)

With the potential in a/c deliveries I find this hard to believe. The point to have done it was 12 months ago. Otherwise they would have to see no meaningful recovery until 2013 to make a furlough worthwhile. Not that its improbable, just very unlikely. Also, BB while a great guy for new-hires doesn't in my opinion get the most up to date info on this. JMO. He gets what's filtered down and with the merger and other issues he is on the back burner with senior management. Not a slap at the guy as I really like him, just reality.

Delta must address the ramp issue of one way in/out. This is the single biggest problem at JFK in my humble opinion.

I was hoping they could make Terminal 2 into an L. Completely redo Terminal 2 but creat another wing that parallels taxiway A. Airplanes could taxiway straight in to gates on the taxiway A side. I'll talk about the other side in a minute.

Once 2 is complete and you've closed off the west side of Terminal 3, tear it down. Built a connecting terminal from 4 to 2 in a big U shape (think Incheon). So we have 4 leading to a big U, connecting to 2 which is a L shape. The big open area in the middle can be use to push back and aircraft could then go to and from their gates without hassle.

I'm smoking crack again.

No what you state makes a ton of sense, and they may look at that. Who knows. Maybe you can get yourself a new job! :D

I agree that it is very unlikely that we will furlough, it just does not jive. Now if they economy double dips, all bets are off.

If we've made it this far without furloughing, if they still need 18 months-ish to make an "ROI" on a furlough and since Compass flown down is still here, then I'd have to say that the pendulum is more neutral with a greater possibility of swinging towards hiring if some rumors come true such as Guam, growth MD-90s and if JAL comes down in a good way then it is to swinging towards furloughs.

Don't forget, markets can react tremendously on political news and the mid-term elections are big deals and thats 10 months away. Read between the lines on that.

But lets say we don't hire, that the pilot group shrinks through attrition in the year or so to come, I think one thing for sure is that the 07-08 hires need to be really thankful that they/we got hired as it might be the only hiring this airline has over a 10 year period.

But lets hope for MD-90s, Guam and JAL.

Come on...tell me you can't imagine BB saying something like this just to see if it pops on a message board someplace. I sure as hell can, I'm sure we are amusing him right now.

Additionally, with everything moving as quickly as it probably is right now in FltOps with merger, JAL, new a/c....summer schedules, huge AE and follow on AE, etc.: I'm sure the rumor mill is spinning faster than a senior momma trying to beat me to the closet behind the ER cockpit with her bag.

I couldnt be more thankful.

I just checked my paycheck on Deltanet, does anyone know where Pay Protection shows up? Thanks

ALV for 320 FOs is 82 with a max line value of 89.5. I really think that we will be very tight this summer. I realize that some fleets have guys not flying, but other fleets have guys flying quite a bit & the true training hasn't even started yet.(Plus it's slow season)

As other's have stated, the opportunity to furlough has passed based on what we are seeing in the economy. The last ROI I heard for 350-500 furloughs was 22 months. So if they pulled the trigger in the fall guys would be out until 2013 minimum for an ROI. Now they could go with 180-250 and maybe get an ROI after about 12-14 months, but it's a questionable move, & may not be worth the $$$.

I will say that while furloughs are never off the table, I think we have passed the most opportunistic time to do so. Always a possibility, but less likely then this past fall IMO.