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Sink r8 09-21-2009 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by RonRicco (Post 681803)
Funny thing is we have done this on quite a few routes (DAB,TLH to name a few) until Airtran pulls out and then then we pull out the increased mainline service, or pull out mainline altogether.

What's confusing you about that? If we wanted to increase survice in the first place, we would have done so. So the "reduced" number is actually what we want, with higher yields. AAI wants market share. They poach. We react. We add more seat, dilute yields, and compete harder to try to drive them off. They stop, we pull back.

In effect it would be a little like peeing in the pool to drive off the other swimmers. When they leave, you stop.

firstmob 09-21-2009 09:57 AM

ACL More and more passenger complaints ref JFK what is going on with upgrade or redo or T2/3 or the AA terminal? Logistically the place is a mess. We are starting to run good passengers away and by good I mean J class passengers

80ktsClamp 09-21-2009 10:41 AM

Apparently AAI is only going to be able to haul like 90 pax in the 737 out of EYW from what I'm hearing.

I wonder what our perf engineering is going to look like.

KC10 FATboy 09-21-2009 11:52 AM

Well, with 4801 Feet of runway and close-in obstacles, you can't exactly takeoff heavy.

KEY WEST INTL
DEPARTURE PROCEDURE: Rwys 9, 27, climb on a
heading between 087° clockwise to 033° from departure
end of runway to avoid R-2916 and unmarked tethered
baloon up to 14000 MSL.
NOTE: Rwy 9, rod on antenna, dome on building, poles,
and numerous trees beginning 38' from departure end of
runway, 199' right of centerline, up to 75' AGL/82' MSL.
Obstruction light on building, pole, and numerous trees
beginning 4' from departure end of runway, 220' left of
centerline, up to 38' AGL/45' MSL. Rwy 27, pole and
numerous trees beginning 27' from departure end of
runway, 116' right of centerline, up to 83' AGL/90' MSL.
Numerous bushes and trees beginning 202' from
departure end of runway, 78' left of centerline, up to 37'
AGL/44' MSL.

buzzpat 09-21-2009 11:56 AM

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Check out our stock today. Things are looking up.

RonRicco 09-21-2009 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 681865)
What's confusing you about that? If we wanted to increase survice in the first place, we would have done so. So the "reduced" number is actually what we want, with higher yields. AAI wants market share. They poach. We react. We add more seat, dilute yields, and compete harder to try to drive them off. They stop, we pull back.

In effect it would be a little like peeing in the pool to drive off the other swimmers. When they leave, you stop.


Not confused on that at all. Just not getting giddy over new mainline service since most of the time it doesn't last.

forgot to bid 09-21-2009 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 681725)
Yep, Tit for Tat with AAI.

it really should be tit for tit, I know it's not but it should be.

It's raining. I wonder if Robert Ballard could find my plane.

forgot to bid 09-21-2009 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 681866)
ACL More and more passenger complaints ref JFK what is going on with upgrade or redo or T2/3 or the AA terminal? Logistically the place is a mess. We are starting to run good passengers away and by good I mean J class passengers

My wife showed a Twitter from a very influential person who said he was waiting for a late Delta flight in LGA and looking around he said wow, now I know why delta went bankrupt.

I can't imagine what high rollers say of JFK. I think we need to get someone in that can put some lipstick on that pig while Delta figures out it's next best move.

80ktsClamp 09-21-2009 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 681865)
What's confusing you about that? If we wanted to increase survice in the first place, we would have done so. So the "reduced" number is actually what we want, with higher yields. AAI wants market share. They poach. We react. We add more seat, dilute yields, and compete harder to try to drive them off. They stop, we pull back.

In effect it would be a little like peeing in the pool to drive off the other swimmers. When they leave, you stop.


Why stop? It's nice and warm. :)

80ktsClamp 09-21-2009 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 681919)
it really should be tit for tit, I know it's not but it should be.

It's raining. I wonder if Robert Ballard could find my plane.

My driveway looks like a waterslide. This could be fun...


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