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Maddog Waddle 01-18-2010 04:00 PM

Lets dispense with the formalities. I just want what you think is going to happen. Thanks for the welcome, lurked around enough.

acl65pilot 01-18-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Maddog Waddle (Post 746492)
Lets dispense with the formalities. I just want what you think is going to happen

Why? It does not matter what I think.

Just remember that whether AMR or DAL is successful their future growth in Asia is at the expense of other pilots and their families. Someone always loses.

Carl Spackler 01-18-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 745809)
This feels a little bit like having your teenage daughter storm out of the room screaming "You hate me!".

Let's try it again.

First, let me say this: Carl, we love you all Northern Brothers like family... because you are, OK? Maybe you need a hug, and maybe we need to say together "It's not my fault, it's not my fault..." and have a good cry together.

...but we don't hate you.

OK, now... I think what the guy was saying is that the company is trying to float the message that that one side is growing, the other side not, in order to influence representation issues. They have put some stuff out on DeltaNet, both for Inflight and ACS suggesting same. Check it out for yourself. I can't access the IFS part from home, but it's on the ACS part (Departments>ACS>Memo from Gil Somebody).

The original poster wasn't endorsing the message, but pointing out the not-so-subtle hint he thought was being given. The reason he had to put up the part you find offensive is that quoting the company's message would be meaningless without it.

And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he wasn't alluding to that ACS/IFS message, and just looking at fleets, and all he was saying is that the company is in fact shrinking one side to drive a message, I still don't think he was making any derogatory or false statements. We did park the B-747-200, and we are parking DC-9's. That's not offensive: it's only true. We also both parked 757's, as you say. OK, fine. No matter which way you look at this, you have to really want to be offended, in order to end up offended.

I think that's why there weren't any (other) debates after his post.

You keep repeating something that is patently misleading at best if not down right false. One side is NOT shrinking while the other side is growing. Both sides are growing some parts of their former fleets, and shrinking some parts of their former fleets. That's not arguable.

It sure is hard to find out your salient point in a post that long dude.

Carl

Carl Spackler 01-18-2010 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 745812)
Carl, what's false? DC-9, 742, and 755 fleets are shrinking. The first two are not coming back. Sucks for all of us but it's the truth. The 90s, 73s and 777s are all growing number of airframes. What's the false part?

See the above post.

Carl

Carl Spackler 01-18-2010 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 745827)
Carl, you crack me up. You forgot to include the last two words of my sentence there, which were vital to not being taken out of context. hahah His quote came in response to some other quotes, but I digress.

See ya on the radios...

Hope that makes sense to you...

Carl

Carl Spackler 01-18-2010 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 745993)
I hereby eat my prediction that Favre was going down.
The old man was spectacular.

We old people are cool. :D

Carl

Carl Spackler 01-18-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 746042)
Dude you may have just awoken Carl again. Standby for incoming comments about your mother and accusations of you being ill-informed, puffed up, and arrogant. :)

You'll never have to worry about that if you just stop sounding ill-informed, puffed up and arrogant. ;)

Carl

Carl Spackler 01-18-2010 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Hawaii50 (Post 746055)
You must be a blast to fly with :eek:. Where's the false statement? The 757 reference was the fNW 5500 series 757s that can't be retrofited with winglets and have seen a high number of grounded aircraft. The original question came up after a dinner discussion with some FAs over the meaning of an IFS memo about shrinking fNW fleets and growing fDL fleets and the benefit to them of resolving their representational issues. It was a pretty inocuous question in my mind.

The false statement was that fNWA was shrinking while the fDAL fleet was growing. We were and are getting new A-330's right up to the merger and afterward. Both sides were shrinking some parts of their fleets and growing others. Thus the falseness of your statement.

Carl

roadrunner65 01-18-2010 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 746022)
We have aprox. 320 pilots on furlough by-pass. around 100 on the DAL side and about 220 on the NWA side. The DAL by-pass guys probably are gone for good. The NWA guys have much greener pasture to return to. I know 3 that had no plans of returning to NWA, but are now planning to come back to Delta. I would bet that 150+ of the 220 from NWA come back. Opinions?


On this note, how will those guys out on furlough be integrated into the new combined list when and if they decide to come back? Were they folded in when the list was created last year?

Carl Spackler 01-18-2010 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 746057)
You do realize that Carl is one of the really smart guys on here. I can't think of much he hasn't been right about over the years.

Make fun if you like...........but he does have credibility:cool:

Sniff....I love you uncle Ferd...Sniff...

Carl


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