Thanks for participating :) Sorry for everyone else who got tied up in a scope debate between us two.
OK, you score a point on buy back of what we sold. Of course, our "credits" were washed away int he storm of bankruptcy so we "sold" this flying and got nothing for it.

A point was lost on citing "opinion." Here are a few documented opinions:
JB - Left seat of the 777
BK - 76 seats, the jobs below that are worth less
LM - It depends, 76 seats works for now
TD - Go for scope purity and let the airlines figure out how to buy airplanes & staff the rest of their employees

Subjective opinions can not be counted on and result in a beauty contest, which can be won by Ms. South Carolina based on her "poise" :YouTube - Miss Teen USA 2007 - South Carolina answers a question
Without objective standards for winning a loss is inevitable. You are talking about changing opinion. Consider the change in opinion from 1999 to today. In 1999 resolutions were passed trying to Section 8 ALPA members who simply wanted to maintain status quo in scope negotiations. Today we are debating the outsourcing of 100 seaters, drawing the circle of "Delta jobs" even smaller.

We will lose unless we return to our representational roots. The Romans understood this, the Christians understood this. Great, enduring, powers, have inclusion as a matter of policy. Apartied government structures inevitably fail as the elites draw an ever smaller circle until they are overthrown.The best hope for our profession is for professional pilots to come together and bargain collectively. Our strength (for the Goose and Gander) is found in numbers. Geese have discovered this BTW. They find safety and efficiency in large flocks. I'm sure that means waiting for the slower Geese to catch up from time to time, whether it be old, or young.

The only way our Association is relevant is if we return to the basics. As Dave Behnke said "If one pilot has a problem, we all have a problem." We may have to make pragmatic compromises, but our union was founded on the very principle that junior pilots would replace more senior pilots cheaper unless we came together and put up barriers to pilot replacement.

In your example, the Gander has gotten senile and forgotten why he ever hooked up with the Goose to begin with. When he's sitting fat, slow and alone on a lake, he's an easy target.

7 years. Some transgressions, like bankruptcy, stay for 10.:eek:

Thanks, I just read that on myfico.com. Credit scores are DUMB!:p

Oh I don't know.. I'll bet paris hilton pays some good coin when that rat she carries around sneezes...

Dispute it. Or call them and ask for it to be removed. Sometimes that works.

+1. I WILL sell bammers and especially gators down the river though.:cool:

Not this one...

Again, Bar, you're wrong. There were meetings as recently as last March/April to determine if costs were being appropriately allocated among DCI/Mainline carrier in the determination of aircraft routes and profitability. We looked at the different methods NWA and DAL had used in making those decisions and how merged Delta was going to do it going forward.

btw, while the methods were different, they came to the same result.

Duh. Point was that there is a ton of money to be made in Large Animal Medicine. You just need to know where to go. Angus hurds of beef is a good place to start. Cutting Horses is another.

Well you saved me the trouble of telling him that. The numbers are new. They were run again after the CPS issue. Not because of it, just after it.