Because you're an FNG. :)


Actually a number of the issues that you were bringing up were things that had long been hashed out. No biggie and it's to be expected. It's great to have a new regular on the juggernaut! The KW thing is still a hot button topic. After my research on the topic, I personally think it's stupid and childish- especially for someone like him that should be in the know.

Typical chest thumping... I hate that crap. If you're gonna be that way, at least do it to actually be productive instead of just being divisive.

No winglets, they didn't add significant savings on the typical stage length

Here are details on the mods and a date:

The DC-9-50 drag reduction package reduces drag by 4%.

Low Drag Tail Cone
Rudder Hinge Covers
Flap Hinge Fairings
Aileron Tab Hinge Covers
Elevator Tab Hinge Covers
Re-faired Tail Skid
Wing to Body Fairing
Slat Segment Seals and Trailing Edge Extension
Spoilers Trailing Edge Extension

The package will be flight tested in May 2010 with subkit delivery beginning in June 2010

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Cool, anything that keeps birds in the air and jobs on the list!

Incorrecto. And this, young padawan, is why you fail.

The MOU 7 and this greivance are about the PROCESS. The northside guys could greive the color of the sky, and if that was filed BEFORE the merger of the MEC, then they should be free to pursue it as they see fit. I don't give a damn about your track record, nor the fact that you've been "doing business this way for 50 years".

And you wonder why the MEC had to do "damage control" by making the NC 4 versus 3 so it could be 2/2....

Sometimes perception matters. Sometimes "leadership" can't be summed up by a trite phrase from an officer's handbook or a motivational poster. Some people get that, and I'm glad to see they're starting to take charge.

As to the content of the greivance, comes down to pay versus hours of service, and how the terms were defined. KW could explain it better than anyone, but, ooops, he got silenced and cockblocked.

Nu

Fixed ;)

Nu

Nu,

Its now "our" track record.

Scoop

True, for greivances filed AFTER the merger of the MECs.

This one, however, was not. You don't need to put it in any column if you don't want to.

Nu

I knew that was the reason. I was just trying to dig a new hole to climb into as the FNG.:D

Sorry - I just don't agree.

If the Delta ALPA group (which we all are now) starting grieving grievances akin to "the color of the sky", it makes the pilot group look stupid and immature. If I was management I'd have more respect and engage a pilot group that didn't waste my time and money will off-the-wall grievances.

Alright, what PROCESS was not followed. Your MEC negotiated a contract, they approved the contract, the pilots approved the contract and now they want a redo. That is not a process question that is a pandering question.

If the NC was made 4 pilots so it could be 2 and 2 for "damage control" then that is a massive failure of leadership. In fact it would just validate the divisive politics that marked the last few weeks. I don't care if the NC is north/south or whatever, I just want the best guys to go get me a contract. If compromises were made to satisfy petty politics then that is a failure of the MEC.

What I see is a phony controversy stirred up about KW and about how the evil south pilots are thwarting his attempts to save the pilots. I mean really, couldn't he have just said "too bad I am not the CA Chairman" and walked away. Did he really have to write a 50 page treatise about how he was wronged then, "oops", it hits the internet 10 minutes later?

Next, we have the Council 54 newsletter that shows up a few days later and they perpetuate the poor me victim attitude. So now you tell me they show up to the MEC Meeting and demand a 2/2 split on the committee in order to kiss and make up. You think that is leadership, sounds like blackmail to me. "Damage control" is your phrase and so the situation breaks down to "I will do damage to the union unless I get my way." That's the kind of leadership you want? I can't believe the rest of the reps would tolerate that kind of blackmail.

Sorry, you may think you should be free to pursue your grievance because it is "your" grievance. Sorry, pal, but it is one contract, one pilot group, one union, and what you insist on could affect us all. You are not a victim so stop acting like one. If the north reps feel that way then they should either change or step aside. There is too much at stake for petty politics to ruin our union.