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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 790923)

Among your defined group are pilots who fought against the policy of the Comair MEC (like me), those who were hired after Lawson left, and current Delta pilots (who might be on their way to work, or working for you in your right seat). The problem with your grouping is that "they all look the same."

... and the worst sin committed was to try to use Delta's furloughed pilots as bargaining chips. Lawson asked the Delta MEC for help, the Delta MEC told him "no, this isn't a negotiation." Lawson replied in kind. I don't like that either, but it IS THE DELTA MEC's JOB to protect the Delta pilots, not Comair's. The Delta MEC could have simply sidestepped the Comair MEC and worked this out with the owners of Comair, DELTA.*

Holding on to bigotry illustrates a lack of knowledge, lack of objectivity and poor judgment. I'm not talking about you, because you are smarter than that.

Sorry Bar... I appreciate the fact this poses a problem with some of the scope/unity issues that you have great (and justifiable) enthusiasm for, but you were not subjected to this injury during furlough, nor the insult of the lawsuit. I was. And yet, this is not a grudge for the sake of a grudge. It is the recognition that this particular group has chosen hostile action against our group.

The fact that this was "just Lawson", of course, is the weakest of all possible excuses. If guys at Comair thinks we don't see through their "failures" to muzzle him, they are mistaken. We see right throught their explanations, and what we see is lust for our seats, and disdain for our pilots.

So you're stuck making emotional apeals, to our sense of decency, etc. The truth is, this does not hinge on our feelings, but on their actions: they have proven to be unreliable partners. So unreliable as to be hostile, and downright dangerous.

As proof that I can look beyond a single event, I don't view ASA the same way, despite the fact the RJDC was also supported there. Comair sealed the deal when they went after furloughees. I was held hostage to their lawsuit once, and to their lobbying against our furloughees the second time around.

And I just got a fresh Stockholm Syndrome vaccine booster.

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Originally Posted by DFW Refugee (Post 790934)

We've got to be well rested...Don't want to scare/hurt/kill anyone in the sim! ;)

He's still going to have to help me out with that one. The game is over. :D

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Originally Posted by Waves (Post 790971)

The jump seat issue cost us big time, but was definitely a must have item..

What about getting the jumpseat made it such a high cost item?

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 790570)

He's not exactly going about the whole "unity" thing the right way.

Really ticks me off when I see guys from either side posting crap like that. alfa gets the cone of shame for that one.

Thanks 80. Apparently, he has decided to ignore it.

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Originally Posted by Waves (Post 790655)

My appologies to Scoop, KC and the rest of you guys. I sometimes get preachy and long winded when I haven't taken my FAA approved depression medication. (tongue in cheek) I'm much better this morning.

No apologies needed man. We're all in this fight together. And believe me when I say this, I get what you're saying and I too want the best contact we can get. I do want to see this company succeed as well. And I apologize for the gramps comment.

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Originally Posted by Maddog Waddle (Post 790992)

Anyone in the know want to comment on validity of following I heard on my last trip:

1. Goal of DAL is in the neighborhood of 50 777s by 2016

2. 10 more 747-4s coming in next year and a half due to 787 delay..there were other aircraft in this payment for delay but i don't remember the exact numbers

3. One of our DCI carriers, out of the 13 million outstanding DCI carriers, will be opening a DFW base to feed increase in flying out of there. AF may bring back the international flight out of there too and (drumroll)....Delta to ASIA out of DFW? maybe done via DFW to LAX or SEA though.

4. Hiring 400 to start in the fall.

5. Delta has made their order for the 100 seater.

I don't know where you're getting this stuff from, but I'm LOVIN IT. Sounds good to me. It even makes sense, which is even better. Hey can we DAL S guys get a few of those 744's? LOL I'd look good in one of those babies. I'm waiting to get a picture of me in the 744 for my avatar. Yeah right! Ha OMG, 50 777's. We'll all be 777 Captains. OK , maybe not all of us. ;) If you are yanking our chain with this stuff, I'm going to report you to the highest authorities. I'm not sure who that is, but I swear I'll do it. LOLOLOL If this stuff is true, I'm going to write you into my will for being the messenger.:D

By the way, I want to fly that 744 so bad I would give up my left N*t for it. Anyone of you 744 Captains need another left N*t? Just wondering.:p

The rumors are great but try and put a little thought. We are going to be given 10 747-400's because 18 787's are late? I find that a bit hard to believe. We might get a good deal on those airframes but no way are they going to give them to us!

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Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 791014)

Probably not all of them, but the penalties are quite large.

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Originally Posted by Waves (Post 791012)

By the way, I want to fly that 744 so bad I would give up my left N*t for it. Anyone of you 744 Captains need another left N*t? Just wondering.:p

Waves,

Be careful what you're willing to give to fly a larger aircraft. The company may just hold you to your word during "contract negotiations". :D

GJ

Stupid question ...

Trying to think out of the box for a little bit (yeah, dangerous I know).

Would it be smart or stupid to negotiate into the contract the following:

Any pilot who is mandatory displaced out of base, will have at his/her option the ability to reserve a company positive space seat for the purposes of commuting on the front/back end of any rotation?