Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 802412)

Great post! I agree.

Edit (after reading sailingfun's post): Sounds like new hire pay is more than I realized. And that increase to the DC is very significant over a long timeframe. I definitely agree that a person has paid his/her dues by the time they get here. And seniority should certainly determine pay. But it sounds to me like the real solution is for us to get our entire pay scale back into an appropriate range. That should fix the problem.

Originally Posted by keenster (Post 802381)

It's called putting in your time and paying your dues as it is with most every other profession in this country. Our profession is unique in that you can't just hop to another airline and make the same pay.
Therefore, it is very important that the more time at company and the more senior you get the more money you should be able to make. It has been the way the game has been for a long time and the junior DC-9 guy knows it. How many 25 year old senior management guys or CEOs are there out there? Sorry, but suck it up, I have paid my dues and am still paying them to get to higher paying positions.:D

Originally Posted by satchip (Post 802408)

So which are we now? A domestic category that flies international or an international category that flies domestic? I smell GRIEVANCE! Ok, not really but it is a valid question.

Originally Posted by Bluto (Post 802424)

ACL, thanks for the slot swap vague prognostication. Care to drop any similar hints about the AE?

Originally Posted by satchip (Post 801913)

I've heard from several sources that Anderson wants this contract done and dusted by 1 Jan 2012. He would like nothing more than to be fully integrated and labor issues resolved while the other players are still squabbling and not realizing the synergies of a merger. That would put us, as in Delta, in the cat bird seat.

The question is, will we as a pilot group have the ability to take an offer quickly, realizing it's good but not "full restoration" in order to position our company for greater gains in the future? This goes along with what ACL has been talking about, incremental gains. Or will this group vote down a good contract with the attitude that there must be more on the table?

Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 802440)

Always vote down the first offer

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 802416)

Philly;

Do some leg work. If you know you are going to DH, go in to Travelnet, list yourself on the flight under the rotation and then take that confirmation number and go to Delta.com and change your seat. Unless it is oversold, I always have good luck.

I know that many are going to state that it is the companies job to fix this, but it is my duff that gets to live it. Therefore, I do what works for me. I am proactive with this stuff.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 802419)

Air Transport Association Names New Vice President of Operations and Safety

Looks like there is some shifting going on.



Air Transport Association Names New Vice President of Operations and Safety

Capt. Tom Hendricks to Lead Industry Technical Team

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 802436)

Um if you are in the CVG ER look at other places. If you like the Pacific NW look for seats on the ER there. If you like the 777, the motor city should have some more opportunities there.

How is that? :D