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seamonster 04-28-2010 03:38 PM

I too have been getting my short calls that are so perfectly placed.

acl65pilot 04-28-2010 03:38 PM

That is an idea. I would like to fly or pass. It also should be trip and parameter dependent.

I would fly a lot if I knew I could pick up trip to get to the cap. I know I can't so I do not put in any slips.

johnso29 04-28-2010 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 803148)
It was much more commutable when it was an international category. Nothing less than three day trips.

Well I was speaking in regards to SC(24 hr and back to back), but yes I'm sure the trips are MUCH less commutable with all the domestic 0600 LGA reports popping up.

Desperado 04-28-2010 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 802962)
Well there is always fNWA "Captain Cornbread." Little Airbus as of a couple years ago anyway. Don't think that's the theme of this avatar change though!


He "Loves Glen Allen"

I read that on a jetbridge.:D

johnso29 04-28-2010 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 803156)
That is an idea. I would like to fly or pass. It also should be trip and parameter dependent.

I would fly a lot if I knew I could pick up trip to get to the cap. I know I can't so I do not put in any slips.

Would be nice. At ExpressJet we had what was called an Agressive Pickup Window or APW. On your last X/no fly day you could go into open time and pick up trips, even if you had SC. The window was open in the morning for only an hour on a first come, first serve basis. As long as your duty day on the open time trip remained w/in your SC duty period you could have it. The trip remained available for a lineholder to cherry pick for up to 8 hours before show time.

It was a nice option to have, but I suppose it does zero good if there is nothing in open time!:p

Tomcat 04-28-2010 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 803153)
All the contract needs is a new slip for being on call. Maybe a PURPLE SLIP that puts a reserve pilot at the front of the list to pick up a trip when one comes in to open time, same day next day, reguardless of ROU. Senoirity bases that trumps it all. If that pilot wants 85 hours on reserve than so be it.

We had something like this not that long ago (Pre-consessionary contract). Called it a "High Yellow" as I recall. If you were the senior guy on reserve, it worked out great, because you could do all your flying/reserve days at the beginning of the month by requesting to be first in line to receive trips and "fill up". That's where the problem came in. Schedulers would run out of reserve pilots at the end of the month and start giving out "Green Slips" to cover the trips. At that's how we got this reserve system.

Tomcat 04-28-2010 04:19 PM

Then some senior guys would bid reserve, put in a "Low Yellow" and hardly fly all month.

For my North brethern, in case you didn't know the history..... Back in the day (before my time), guys would actually hand the scheduler a particular colored slip of paper (yellow, green, white) that was associated with the nature of the request.

johnso29 04-28-2010 04:26 PM

Tomcat,

How's MEM 320 treating you? :)

Howgozit 04-28-2010 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 803162)
Would be nice. At ExpressJet we had what was called an Agressive Pickup Window or APW. On your last X/no fly day you could go into open time and pick up trips, even if you had SC. The window was open in the morning for only an hour on a first come, first serve basis. As long as your duty day on the open time trip remained w/in your SC duty period you could have it. The trip remained available for a lineholder to cherry pick for up to 8 hours before show time.

It was a nice option to have, but I suppose it does zero good if there is nothing in open time!:p

I was never on reserve at XJT, but I do have to say that we should reference XJT contract for 2012 negotiations... Never thought I woud say that but we had some good things in that contract!

johnso29 04-28-2010 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by Howgozit (Post 803185)
I was never on reserve at XJT, but I do have to say that we should reference XJT contract for 2012 negotiations... Never thought I woud say that but we had some good things in that contract!

There were very nice things, like 3.75 hours of pay for any 24 hr calendar day layover. That made a lot of the redeye lines out of IAH worth over 110 hours of credit for less then 90 hours of flying. Trips that touch vacation getting dropped was nice too.


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