Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 804304)

Nu,

I agree. I think everyone from flight ops to inflight to DALPA is starting to see that 40% is too large to be absorbed and therefore you can't use the old Pan Am playbook.

But, I think we will be a better company down the road after the smoke clears. I keep telling myself that this time next year I'll be wondering what the big deal was.

Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 804389)

Having flown with a few S. guys I am convinced that we as a group can move forward to provide the safest operation in the industry. While I absolutely despised our former page long taxi checklist and procedures so anal that it dictated the exact order in which an FMS had to be loaded (yes the dots in SOPA/SMAC represented a particular order), I openly embrace a quieter/safer deck on taxi out. On the other end of the spectrum I sense less SA in a round dial DC-9 with one FDRA bouncing around the cockpit," Hey Bill, what was the airway after FLM?"

There have been some good and not so great changes. Unfortunately for the PMDAL pilots, only fNWA pilots will have had experience with both systems. Succesful integration of best practices will be the result of level-headed fNWA pilots in their presentation and equally open minded PMDAL pilots brushing aside tradition and leaving politics in the employee parking lot. Hopefully these items will be changed to a hybrid of former procedures in the interest of safety down the road; that will be the ultimate signature and trademark of a group of experienced professionals.

Aside from the integration issues I would like to see Delta pull a consistent profit and create a network plan that is the envy of the industry. The past few quarterly statements have been dismal, a reversal in our revenue stream and some movement would get most of the pilots out of the doldrums of the SLI as we would all finally get a glimpse of what hundreds of unpaid hours of transition were for, a better future. Here's to going forward with best practices in the name of safey and attaining profitability.

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 804423)

It's never been about "sit down and shut-up", it's ...

Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 804304)

Nu,

I agree. I think everyone from flight ops to inflight to DALPA is starting to see that 40% is too large to be absorbed and therefore you can't use the old Pan Am playbook.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 804438)

Heyas Ferd,

I'll leave it to your imagination who's who in this cartoon:

For the record, there is a lot of stuff that I like at DAL as well. It's time to start picking the best stuff...BIG and SMALL.

Nu

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Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 804438)

For the record, there is a lot of stuff that I like at DAL as well. It's time to start picking the best stuff...BIG and SMALL.

Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 804385)

How long between WWO completion and OE trip?

Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 804449)

Agreed. The only question is who makes the choice.

I submit the lines pilots will be the best judges of what the line pilots want. Therfore, the only way is for pilots to talk this stuff over, agree, and lobby together for the changes they want.

Otherwise, all you're doing is lobbying Flt Ops to pick a winner based on the analysis of the 40%, hoping they rule in your favor. The 60%, meanwhile, will not be part of the discussion.

The only way you respect everyone's opinion is to involve everyone. I've never flown with a FNWA guy. I don't know how you want to do things, nor do I know why you want them done that way. Because only a very small fraction of us have in fact worked together, I know there is no consensus on Best Practices. There can't possibly be.

Originally Posted by Gnewt (Post 804452)

For me? 2 months!! But then Im kinda special.:D

Gnewt