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Bucking Bar 05-24-2010 06:25 AM


Originally Posted by Mem9guy (Post 816273)
This was out of my home airport, I know the agents well, and according to them there was no weight restriction or MEL issues...

Sorry that happened to you. That was wrong. ACL's advice is right on. I'd be temped to talk to a CP about it. ASA's senior flight operations management is former Delta and would not like this. The Chiefs all know each other and work together well.

Mem9guy 05-24-2010 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 816276)
MEM;
Like I said, call the JS coordinator. They can get right to the heart of this issue. We cannot do much on here. Sorry that happened.

Also it may not have been a structural issue but a RATOW or Climb issue that they may not have been aware of.

I am working on it..

It wasn't an aircraft issue, this guy basically told the agents that he didn't allow jumpseaters in his cockpit. I respect his "Captain's authority" on this, I was just trying to get an insight as to what he felt like he was accomplishing with this policy. Like Bar said, my experience with DCI and Airlink jumpseats in the past has always been that guys have gone the extra mile to try and fit me in somehow. I have been left behind before, but always felt like they had tried to make it work first...

KC10 FATboy 05-24-2010 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 816174)
Hey my brother and sister FNWA peeps,

What is up at DTW? I've been through there 4 times in the last month and the ground service sucks. Even got the attitude today when we were buttoned up, ready to push, and no paper. The ramp girl scolded me about asking for the final numbers prior to push. I understand that it may be a DAL/NWA culture thing. I used to think JFK was the worst station in the network. I like the DTW layover but those folks are painfully plodding. It would hurt me to move so slow.

I've been to DTW a handful of times already ... in fact I'm writing from the long layover. I have had similar situations with the ground crews not showing up to meet the aircraft. And when they finally do, they take their time. In one instance, they danced, yes danced, for a few moments before casually walking to their stations. I hope our airline can fix this type of stuff.

DeadHead 05-24-2010 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 816282)
I've been to DTW a handful of times already ... in fact I'm writing from the long layover. I have had similar situations with the ground crews not showing up to meet the aircraft. And when they finally do, they take their time. In one instance, they danced, yes danced, for a few moments before casually walking to their stations. I hope our airline can fix this type of stuff.

Last time I was there marshaller pulled us up to far so the jetway couldn't dock, so it took us an hour to get the plan pushed back 3 feet. What's the point in trying to be on time only to have passengers misconnect because of ground crews. Delay is a delay, but either way I agree we need to iron these things out.

Mem9guy 05-24-2010 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 816282)
I've been to DTW a handful of times already ... in fact I'm writing from the long layover. I have had similar situations with the ground crews not showing up to meet the aircraft. And when they finally do, they take their time. In one instance, they danced, yes danced, for a few moments before casually walking to their stations. I hope our airline can fix this type of stuff.

Nothing new in DTW. I have always considered it a failure of Middle Management as they seem to have allowed this behavior to become the norm.

Another ongoing issue that never seems to get fixed is plugging in air to DC-9's at the gates. I was in MEM, ORD, and LIT yesterday, all well over 80 degrees and we never once had air plugged in to the aircraft at the gates. They hammer us about APU usage, but don't seem to be able to make the people doing the "underwing work" do their part. May just be a case of "getting what we pay for" in labor force.

Bucking Bar 05-24-2010 06:43 AM

At the Delta Block Party there was a cut away APU with gas cans piled around it and several people there to talk to the curious about APU usage.

I thought that was a good idea, as some people were explaining to their families how they operate and how we save gas by plugging the airplane in.

Mem9guy 05-24-2010 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 816292)
At the Delta Block Party there was a cut away APU with gas cans piled around it and several people there to talk to the curious about APU usage.

I thought that was a good idea, as some people were explaining to their families how they operate and how we save gas by plugging the airplane in.

I am all for shutting them down as much as possible. I have never understood why we are not plugged in with both air and electric every single time. Someone in managment needs to address this from the ramp side, but it seems like they always come after the flight crews first.

acl65pilot 05-24-2010 06:57 AM

No Flight Ops comes after us, and ACS comes after the ramp staff. It is outside of Flight Ops sphere of control.

Nosmo King 05-24-2010 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 816292)
At the Delta Block Party there was a cut away APU with gas cans piled around it and several people there to talk to the curious about APU usage.

I thought that was a good idea, as some people were explaining to their families how they operate and how we save gas by plugging the airplane in.

For those of you flying Osaka (KIX). There was a time when it was cheaper to run the APU than use external power in KIX, due to the absurdly high fees they charged for external...

Mem9guy 05-24-2010 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 816301)
No Flight Ops comes after us, and ACS comes after the ramp staff. It is outside of Flight Ops sphere of control.


Hopefully this will improve this summer. I hate burning up fuel this way, and also hate the noise on the pre-flights:)


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