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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 835278)

I looked it up already.
The NWA contract definition of affiliate is identical to the one in the Delta PWA.

---- a subsidiary, parent or division of the company.
---- an entity that controls or is controlled by the company.

So if Mesaba and Compass are sold, they are no longer affiliates.
Comair will be the last remaining "affiliate".

Well there ya go.

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Originally Posted by upndsky (Post 835271)

ACL, I was referring to this post (the part highlighted in bold). What are you basing this on?

I'm also trying to put the puzzle pieces together and the answer to this question could affect how the picture looks, IMO.

To solid answer yet, but the guys that seem to be more in the know are stating it is a at risk type scheme and not a FFD or Cost plus.

It is just a guess, but an educated one.

Also read the language that states the kickback if the flow becomes unavailable. It does not say by what means, it is vague for a reason, and does not define the direction of the flow.

So the market has taken a huge dump recently. The chance of a double dip is starting to rear it's ugly head. However, management doesn't appear to be worried. Could it be that 305 pilots is the amount of bodies we could bring on without having to furlough?

Are they selling these WO's for the sole purpose of eliminating the flow agreements? Are these agreements what prevented furloughs last time? It doesn't seem so to me. There has to be more benefit to selling them then just eliminating the flow. Less costs, no DOT fines for violating 3 hr rule, less FFD contracts & more at risk contracts....

Ugh. My head is spinning. I can't see us hiring if management is worried about a double dip. They seem confident in profitability for 2010. :confused:

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 835315)

I really don't think that they are selling because of the flow (my opinion is that it is a nice unintended consequence of the sale for some people). I really have to believe that Mother Delta is really focusing on getting back to being a very strong company. They are reducing risk (i.e. DOT fines, one level of safety, etc) for the company and ultimately shareholders. While gaining a little on the sale in dollars, this deal has to really help in reducing overhead and direct costs in maintaining 3 separate WO's. We appear to be focusing on the core of Delta Air Lines. This is good in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 835331)

+1

and Johnso29, I am told, not firsthand info here, that it was pretty much stated by SD that the cost of the flow prevented furloughs.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 834958)

The 2 MEM 320B's I know are on reserve, & they fly every week.

Thanks Johnso29, I'm just debating if its worth a hit in my lifestyle. Its nice to only work 2 days a month, but I know this won't last.

Quick question:

Is the DC-9 (not MD-80/90) based in ATL?

Or is the mighty -9 only in MSP, DTW and MEM?

Are the new MD90's on the property yet. The Widgethead's guy website is shutdown.

Thanks

MARTY!!

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Originally Posted by Martin404 (Post 835360)

The DC9-30/40/50 is based in DTW, MEM, & MSP.

The MD88/90 is based in ATL, CVG, MSP, NYC, & SLC.

Although I don't know if the maddog will be based in SLC much longer.

And the new 90's are they on the property yet?