Hence the rumor about ASA hiring up to 600 pilots this year?

It all connects.

Compass = sold.
Mesaba = sold.
Comair = dismantled and ultimately gone.

No more wholly owned, now (literally just for now) 4 players in the DCI game.

Pinnacle
TSH
SKYW
RJET.

ACL-

What's your read on the red portion above. Do you see that as: all new hires after the sale is finalized will not be elgible to flow?

-or-

only the pilots who flow before the sale is complete will be the only lucky ones?

I do not take the questions as such.

First, you need to understand Delta and the vetting process here. The history of Delta and the fact that they see their hiring process as a right of passage and a tradition. It is not taken lightly.

Now with this in mind, and realizing that having TransStates the airline that created GoJets become the body that will be hiring pilots for CPS positions who will become Delta pilots with no interview, will ultimately give many pilots here as well as the company a severe case of heart burn.

Of course it can be argued that they knew this when the sold them, and I am sure it will be argued as such, but it does not change the fact that Delta will not have control of their pilot product from a selection standpoint. Probation could be used more seriously, but in reality again that is not have Delta rolls.

ALPA will negotiate away the flow for some useless furlough protection.

I am not going to answer that. Why? Just plain smart.

I will state that the Q and A from CPS states that the flow will be talked about but and I am sure that all parties will be brought to the table.

I will offer my opinion on the language. It is successorship language and the cert has survived to date so the flows remain intact because of the LOA language. Now if there is a SLI or the cert goes away, that will be up for debate.

I wonder if there is another step in the process with TSA buying CPS and Pinnacle buying Mesaba. I would not be overly surprised to see SKW buy Pinnacle holdings and RJET or the like buy the CPS part of TSA. They are the ones that need the jets.

Compass contract:

LETTER 2007-06
FLOW THROUGH AGREEMENT

In the event of a sale of Compass such that it is no longer an affiliate of Northwest, the flow up rights of Compass new hire pilots (paragraphs D. and H. below) can be terminated by Compass without impacting Northwest’s upper cap as outlined in Section 1 B.7.c. of the NWA/ALPA Agreement (e.g., upper cap of 90).

Do you prefer that we sell if for money? That seemed to work well for us in C2K.

Not being a wise.... just asking a serious question.

It is part of the reason that ppl like Bar wanted this CPS angle costed out about a year and a half ago. Simply put we saw this one coming and wanted to have costs assigned to the benefits that the flow as well as the flying proved to the Delta pilots.

Now we are here and will more than likely be asked for something. It only makes sense and that is just my guess. DAL could simply just honor the flows.

FWIW, there are about four years of flowable pilots at CPS before one pilot not hired by the NWA/DAL system would have the option of flowing and a ton of Mesaba guys. There is time to make a correct decision that benefits everyone.

ACL,

In one of your posts, you wrote that the TSH/Compass deal is an "at risk" agreement. Is that a fact or are you assuming? I haven't found any details about the deal other than the cursory press release.

Not second-guessing you, just curious.

83 million sure doesn't sound like much.

Read Tanstafl's post. I believe that Mesaba/pinnacle filed a 8K stating as such but that CPS/TSA has not as of yet.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tml#post835091