Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 835256)

That is it, I can't take it anymore.....First we lost our uniforms (gained hats), then we lost our headquarters, SOPA, SMAC, Worldflight, managers AND now we have lost our feeders!!!!!!!!!! Is nothing sacred???? Get the visine out!!! (for those that can't read into it, this is tic)

Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 835226)

Compass contract:

LETTER 2007-06
FLOW THROUGH AGREEMENT

In the event of a sale of Compass such that it is no longer an affiliate of Northwest, the flow up rights of Compass new hire pilots (paragraphs D. and H. below) can be terminated by Compass without impacting Northwest’s upper cap as outlined in Section 1 B.7.c. of the NWA/ALPA Agreement (e.g., upper cap of 90).

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 835263)

So what is the definition of affiliate? :eek:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 835263)

So what is the definition of affiliate? :eek:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 835228)

FWIW, there are about four years of flowable pilots at CPS before one pilot not hired by the NWA/DAL system would have the option of flowing and a ton of Mesaba guys. There is time to make a correct decision that benefits everyone.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 835189)

To piggy back this statements since I had to hit post and answer a call...

TransStates Holding Co did not have a DCI ASA prior to today. There was no secondary benefit to sell them to these guys. Selling them to RJET or SKW would have allowed they to alter the FFD structured ASA's to the "At Risk" structure. It appears that is the structure of the new agreement with TSA, but there is no other real benefit since they were a WO.

The only other bennies I can see is the DOT3 et al will now e paid by someone one else. We may see some A/C obligations removed from our balance sheet as well. We are getting out of the WO game. There are going to be wants/desires on these flows and my guess is that if we do not play ball these airlines will be sold again.

Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 835266)

WHEREAS Compass Airlines, Inc. is a Feeder Carrier Affiliate as described in
NWA/ALPA Letter of Agreement 2006-14, and

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 835263)

So what is the definition of affiliate? :eek:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 835219)

I am not going to answer that. Why? Just plain smart.

I will state that the Q and A from CPS states that the flow will be talked about but and I am sure that all parties will be brought to the table.

I will offer my opinion on the language. It is successorship language and the cert has survived to date so the flows remain intact because of the LOA language. Now if there is a SLI or the cert goes away, that will be up for debate.

I wonder if there is another step in the process with TSA buying CPS and Pinnacle buying Mesaba. I would not be overly surprised to see SKW buy Pinnacle holdings and RJET or the like buy the CPS part of TSA. They are the ones that need the jets.