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slowplay 09-10-2010 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 868675)
Heyas,

Someone posted a good outline on the new duty/rest rules over on the DALPA forum.

If you have the time, I'd read it.

Nu

Very nice self-promotion, Nu!:D You've done a nice job culling some of the more pertinent items.

There are a whole bunch of posts in that thread that are completely wrong. I think I'd wait for a more complete analysis of the nPrm.

NuGuy 09-10-2010 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 868681)
Very nice self-promotion, Nu!:D You've done a nice job culling some of the more pertinent items.

There are a whole bunch of posts in that thread that are completely wrong. I think I'd wait for a more complete analysis of the nPrm.

Nothing "self" about it. I think I may have bought this account on ebay because the previous "owner" was too cool for school, so I don't know what you're talking about. Sort of like owning a suit from a celebrity.

I do agree, however, about the "proposed" part. There are some aspects that will have to be monitored VERY carefully... such as the apparent requirement to extend the duty/reduce rest be agreed to by both the crewmember and the company. One word could easily change both those in a bad, bad way.

If you actually read the entire NPRM, you will see the FAA has put both sides on notice. They've woven this thing with concessions to both sides, and if you read their reasoning, if you start changing things, the whole thing will unravel.

I COULD see some tweaks...any of which would make this thing much better or much worse. Make the 9 hours AT the rest facility, instead of "arriving at", and I'd prefer 10 hours rest versus 9. Tighten up the duty time/legs ratio so that the duty day ratchets down starting at fewer legs. Go to 9 hours flight time, versus 10...

OTOH, it could get much worse very easily. It could very easily be tweaked to go in the other direction and be worse than what we have now.

Nu

Howgozit 09-10-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 868675)
Heyas,

Someone posted a good outline on the new duty/rest rules over on the DALPA forum.

If you have the time, I'd read it.

Nu

Trying to find it which section is it in? Thanx

hoserpilot 09-10-2010 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Howgozit (Post 868706)
Trying to find it which section is it in? Thanx


Its in hangar talk

contrails 09-10-2010 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Howgozit (Post 868706)
Trying to find it which section is it in? Thanx

In the meantime let me get you and everyone else a little riled up so we're all ready to write letters during this comment period.

ATL-NRT with three pilots as long as report time is before 5PM.

RockyBoy 09-10-2010 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by contrails (Post 868726)
In the meantime let me get you and everyone else a little riled up so we're all ready to write letters during this comment period.

ATL-NRT with three pilots as long as report time is before 5PM.

So I just looked up that flight on Delta.com to see when it leaves and how long the flight is.

While I was at it I checked the fares....$12,000 roundtrip in first class four weeks out!

contrails 09-10-2010 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by RockyBoy (Post 868733)
So I just looked up that flight on Delta.com to see when it leaves and how long the flight is.

While I was at it I checked the fares....$12,000 roundtrip in first class four weeks out!

Look up LAX-SYD and back on United in first class sometime.

Carl Spackler 09-10-2010 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 868465)
I don't understand the huge chip on the shoulder a very few NWA pilots seem to have. The ones I know personally and the ones I have flown with so far are all great individuals and pilots.

They are great guys. But the only chip that's showing is yours dude. That constant NWA bashing from you is tiresome. Sometimes it's subtle, sometimes it's not. But it's frequently there. A very small number of fDAL guys are angry at the influx of pilots who are not "real Delta." Your posts show me that you're one of them. I think the more of us that you actually meet, the more you'll think differently and maybe that will cause you to moderate your posts.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 868465)
I have never initiated a single subject putting down NW.

During the SLI, that's all you did. You're better now, but it's still there. You and slowplay are the only ones that are still doing this. Come to think of it...I wonder if anyone has ever seen sailingfun and slowplay in the same room. Hmmm...:confused:


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 868465)
Life is not so bad at Delta Carl,

Of course it's not. I don't recall anyone saying it is. That's not the point. The point is your constant NWA bashing. Not life at Delta, just you...and your mini-me of course.

Carl

Carl Spackler 09-10-2010 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 868473)
When big D decides to move 330 and or 744 time to Atlanta instead of all the DHs they use right now, we will see vacancies in ATL. I believe once this happens all who flocked to NYC to follow the 765 will return to ATL IF they can hold it and as Carl said NYC will be junior again.

That's the basis of my opinion...but it's just my opinion.

Carl

johnso29 09-10-2010 01:30 PM

Carl,

What happened with the 744 at the gate in JFK the other day? :confused:


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