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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 787095)
Did you just post a route where mainline replaced an RJ?;)
Yup... In about 150 years we should be caught up. |
Originally Posted by Imapilot2
(Post 787138)
Just so you know, MSP DC9 is set to close when the new MD90's are ready. All MD 90's are to be based out of MSP. It will be the sole MD90 base and the only base to have MD90 trained crews.
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Originally Posted by Superdad
(Post 787183)
I'm not sure I understand the AFA's position here, are they trying to reverse the merger in its entirety?
What are they hoping to accomplish? They will settle for the size 28 red dress.. I am sure of it.:eek: |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 787170)
Just saw a sign on the cpo's update board that states all NYC 88 crews to be 90 qualified by fall.
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 787174)
Here's what the AFA wants:
That the Company shall cease and desist the integration of all flight crews and restore the status quo ante (that the Company shall schedule only pre-merger NW flight attendants to work on aircraft flown only by pre-merger NW pilots). That the Company shall provide make whole relief to the Union and affected flight attendants. And, any and all such other relief deemed just and necessary. You really think the courts are going to allow that? I don't think the AFA is going to win, because the scope clause talks only about pilots on the NWA seniority list. There isn't a NWA pilot seniority list - it merged with the Delta pilot senority list with the merger. If the company had balls - it would say, "Sure - we'll do what you want. But the only aircraft operated by only pre-merger NW pilots is the B747-400. Because of the union and the scope clause, we have to staff the DC9, A320, B757 and A330 with pre-merger Delta FAs. So - we're going to furlough on the pre-merger NWA side and hire like crazy on the pre-merger Delta side. What? You don't like that? It's just want you wanted!" |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 787170)
Just saw a sign on the cpo's update board that states all NYC 88 crews to be 90 qualified by fall.
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 787174)
Here's what the AFA wants:
That the Company shall cease and desist the integration of all flight crews and restore the status quo ante (that the Company shall schedule only pre-merger NW flight attendants to work on aircraft flown only by pre-merger NW pilots). That the Company shall provide make whole relief to the Union and affected flight attendants. And, any and all such other relief deemed just and necessary. You really think the courts are going to allow that? I don't think the AFA is going to win, because the scope clause talks only about pilots on the NWA seniority list. There isn't a NWA pilot seniority list - it merged with the Delta pilot senority list with the merger. If the company had balls - it would say, "Sure - we'll do what you want. But the only aircraft operated by only pre-merger NW pilots is the B747-400. Because of the union and the scope clause, we have to staff the DC9, A320, B757 and A330 with pre-merger Delta FAs. So - we're going to furlough on the pre-merger NWA side and hire like crazy on the pre-merger Delta side. What? You don't like that? It's just want you wanted!" |
Originally Posted by Waves
(Post 787198)
That's what I would do if I were the judge or mediator. You guys can sit on the sidelines and fly the 744 until you come to your senses. Three or four months on furlough ought to do it.
Since we are only allowed to fly NWA flight attendants on former NWA equipment and we have retired a significant number of NWA aircraft we find we are overstaffed. Sadly we will have to furlough 500 flight attendants from the NWA side until we resolve the integration issue. |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 787202)
They are trying to manufacture leverage. The Delta F/A's would have to take significant compensation cuts if they voted for AFA now. The Delta F/A's have had two raises since the merger, NW AFA not so much. The AFA is probably trying to find a way to increase their wages prior to the vote to make it easier to prevail. Overall, the AFA when given a choice of how to handle this merger has made the wrong choice. The flailing will continue until the vote is taken.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 787206)
It wont be decided by a judge or a mediator. It will be a arbitrator from the NBM. He can rule allmost anyway he wants. If he decides the intent of their scope clause was to have NWA flight attendants only working NWA mainline equipment he will order that to happen. I don't think there is really in chance he will try and keep the pilot groups apart. If the AFA wins this issue look for Delta to play hardball. I would expect the following announcement.
Since we are only allowed to fly NWA flight attendants on former NWA equipment and we have retired a significant number of NWA aircraft we find we are overstaffed. Sadly we will have to furlough 500 flight attendants from the NWA side until we resolve the integration issue. |
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