I agree. Check essential's statement scares me.

Happy 4th to you Ferd! Gonna miss you by a week in the ATL. Have fun. You can, of course, buy a few rounds for me with my name on them at the bar and I'll collect when I arrive on the 28th.;)

Thanks for your service also, even if you were an Eagle driver.;)

You guys wouldn't let Compass keep their 76 seaters for a 25% pay raise?

I'm a principled man, but I can be bought. :D

Here's my fear:

The MEC doesn't really want to bring the hammer down on that many 76 seaters. At least not all at once. It would cause Delta some serious pain. I don't think the MEC can quite believe the enormous power they have right now. Management may not have fully realized what they were doing either. They might have completely overlooked the full implications of Section 1.B.40.e
That makes sense because its hard to believe they signed this deal without having something locked up regarding the flow and that little jewel in our scope clause.

They are going to find a way to finesse that section of our contract.
They're gonna let management off the hook.

My prediction:
They'll bring out the ALPA lawyers to tell us the language doesn't really mean what it says.

Are you suggesting selling Scope Protections for pay? :eek:

Bad precedent IMHO.

I would leave the scope protections as is for enough pay, yes.
I wouldn't relax them any further.

It looks to me like management may have screwed up.
They didn't realize what our contract said about the sale of Compass and Mesaba.

Well Check, lets hope not.

See the issue here is Lee in particular needs to fight this to support the Delta pilots that may flow down, and the DCI pilots if he wants to run for National. It is really about unity. It can also be sold as such. (It will cost money, and the money will be the Delta Pilot's)

They better recognize the power that is in our PWA, and the fact that the PWA was written AFTER these LOA's. That is important legally. I will let you draw your conclusions.

Lets also remember that this is actually an Emotional Issue for Flying Operations. They have always interviewed and hired their own pilots. This is a major change with flows. They do not like em, so there is leverage there as well. (Do not under value this either)

I highly doubt that many of the reps will be bought off to beleive that this is not very very important.

I also agree with Carl, and ACL. We DO NOT sell SCOPE for pay. Period!!!!!!

I read it too, and as I just pointed out, the PWA was written AFTER the LOA's. This is huge.

Also those LOA's came as is!! That means that many of the definitions etc that are used will relay on a past PWA.

Yep, I agree that they may have over looked this. The simple answer is for DAL to say nothing. They have not "officially" indicated that they want to cancel the flows, only the CPS CEO. Because of this, there is no back pedaling need if they opt to do nothing. (They have four years of CPS flows to flow before the first pilot hired by Trans States would come to our list) That means lots of time to twist in the wind.

Good to hear. I do think that we may actually have some leverage with this one. Time will tell though.

I absolutely 100 percent would not let Compass keep their 76-seaters. That is relaxing scope for money AGAIN. There is a consequence written into the contract if the company does not comply. Selling that consequence for a 25 percent pay raise is unacceptable. SELLING ANYTHING RELATED TO SCOPE IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!! I think there are more pilots out there that think like you. That scares me.