Originally Posted by keenster (Post 788114)

Say Wiggy I am on my Knees with 5000 other fNWA guys bowing and saying we're not worthy. Are ya happy now. Just a small subgroup that is to small to worry about!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 788185)

"led by the fiendishly derisive Nuguy"

Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 788185)

Well Keenster: I am happy, I think, -depending on my ambiguous (or perhaps "wary") reading of your (perhaps ambiguous) statements, which I will attempt to clarify: If the "unworthy 5000" are truely repentant, and in their bowing and groveling unworthyness, swear allegiance to the annointed personage of our glorious union leader, and repudiate for eternity the evil, satanically inspired actions of that "small subgroup" (led by the fiendishly derisive Nuguy) who thought it would have been a worthwhile arbitration, then yes, I am happy.

But if you are secretly a party in sympathy with that "small subgroup" and in your statements imply with a beelzebubian fork-tongued twist that it deceptively, and treacherously refers back to the "unworthy 5000, on their knees and bowing" in mock reverence for the annointed one, then that is bad news, and, like Vito Corleone, if it is bad news....I will want to hear it right away..

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 788127)

Personal attacks? How have I insulted your person? Did I say "you know Alfa, your wife dresses you funny". Now your ideas of leadership...fair game.

Nice dig on the Northside MEC before you edited it out. Pot, meet kettle.



Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I present you with exhibit one. Was that poster the one with the eagle flying around, or the guy looking down from the mountain top?

But, since you were nice enough to edit your post, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, and just say that this is YOUR version of leadership is NOT appropriate here. Maybe in the squadron, or as the executive at some corporation, where you have been put in that position by some higher authority.

But in THIS case, our leadership is there for one reason, and one reason only, and that is to execute the will of the pilot group.

I'll let that sink in with you...

"Taking the temperature of the situation and adjusting your principles to fit the swaying winds" or "pandering to the masses", as you called it (which, by the way, is a colossal insult to every pilot on this property) is what's called actually listening to the people who put you in that position (oh, and pay your FPL while they're at it). If you don't like how the winds are blowing, then you are free to step aside, and allow the pilot group to put someone in that position to KNOWS why they are there.

I'm certainly glad that the MEC saw it that way. Huge world shift, IMHO, and one that didn't go unnoticed.

Sorry your world view went by the wayside. Muster up some folks and get some reps that think like you elected. That's how the system works. fNWA pilots are known for their engagement in the process rather than giving into "groupthink". I KNOW my council is involved. Half the candidates for the negotiating committee were from 20.

Seems a good time to use the catch-phrase for the merger: "It is what it is."

As for Wiggys comments "technicality-justified"

Um, "technicality justified" is still justified. It's what we, in the real world, call due process, or in ALPAspeak, "Duty of Fair Representation". Nothing emotional about it. It was a duly filed grievance that occurred prior to the merging of the two MECs.

As for "zero concern for the long-term interests of the whole group". You're kidding right? It's called wanting the the few remaining Northside grievances to be heard via due process, and you jump to that? Certainly, if they are as trivial as you suppose, they will be dismissed by the arbitrator in short order.

Now if I was as cynical as you seem to think I am, I would say something along the lines of "the leadership doesn't want this grievance to proceed, because if it prevails, then the Northside pilots are due a substantial amount of money, money that's going to have to come from somewhere, and the Southside guys will think they got an unequal deal". But I'm not quite that cynical....yet.

As for the rest of your little diatribe... Sorry if I don't get all flustered by your Alfa-love fest.

Nu

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 788201)

C'mon boys. Have a beer and make nice. You're gonna be on the same crew bus one day soon and I don't want to hear it. :p

Originally Posted by FrankCobretti (Post 788099)

Quick question: Several bulletins ago, there was some verbiage about will preparation services.

I can't find the bulletin. Would someone be kind enough to repost the information of pm me (if you don't think anyone else is interested)?

Thanks!

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 788092)

Well I checked my Sked after 1500 LBT, & my SC was still there so I acknowledged it with a sulky click of the mouse.

On my way to the airport I decided to check my sked again, & suprise....a 4 day with a 1300 report showed up. I acknowledged it now & headed back home, I'll commute in tomorrow. :)

I just accepted it now because I know they could have just called me in the morning during my SC window & given it to me then. It is one leg that finishes just inside 12 hours from the beginning of my SC so I was going to get the trip either way, right? I didn't just commit myself to working when I didn't have too, did I? :o

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 788092)

Well I checked my Sked after 1500 LBT, & my SC was still there so I acknowledged it with a sulky click of the mouse.

On my way to the airport I decided to check my sked again, & suprise....a 4 day with a 1300 report showed up. I acknowledged it now & headed back home, I'll commute in tomorrow. :)

I just accepted it now because I know they could have just called me in the morning during my SC window & given it to me then. It is one leg that finishes just inside 12 hours from the beginning of my SC so I was going to get the trip either way, right? I didn't just commit myself to working when I didn't have too, did I? :o