It is hard to imagine any of them showing up for work this weekend and 60 days correlates nicely with the end of peak summer flying. But, we are pilots and do our jobs faithfully.

The position of the D-MEC Reps is that they had no knowledge what so ever of this transaction and were caught completely by surprise.

All of this was predicted a long time ago.

They'll become familiar with it very quickly because I think they will be meeting to discuss what to give up to get rid of the lower cap if the flow is cancelled. Call and let your reps know that this is our no furlough clause and they better not give it up for anything less than the $85 million that Delta just put in the bank.

Just figured out that if we divided up the $85 million between the pilots we would only get about $7K each. Better get MORE than the $85 million if we're gonna give it up.

How do we know this?

It IS likely our MEC is going to again enter into a mid contract scope renegotiation. There is a disconnect between management communications, the crew room lawyers, f-NWA pilots and ALPA Reps. In the midst of all these constituencies is a lot of gray and confusion.

We should be clear, the sale of Compass to goJets management is a degradation of both Compass and Delta pilots' contractual language (even if it is upheld). The flow is now considered by Delta to be not needed at best and repugnant at worst. Given that the flow is mutually unpopular on both sides of the negotiating table (Compass no longer has a seat) I am not optimistic that it will be upheld, or even traded for anything of significant value.

It is likely a year from now Compass pilots will be Teamsters members and challenging both our exclusivity and low end of our pay rates. As Bar most accurately predicted, we have made enemies when we should have made friends.

Rocky, you are on to something ... BUT ... why should senior pilots benefit by the sale of junior pilots job protections? Did they not get enough by shoring up their pensions through the creation of the super premium RJ operation to begin with?

I don't think they get another bite at the apple. In fact, I encourage them to go enjoy their retirement.

Taking your logic to the extreme to illustrate a point ... why don't we just outsource the whole airline and enjoy the rest of careers at home?

That's interesting. The Mesaba/Pinnacle management in their "Q&A" said that the parties already had an interim agreement to continue the flow. DALPA is definitely one of the "parties" to that flow LOA. Something's not right.

Here's managment's Q&A answer:

F4. Will this announcement affect the Flow Through Agreement with our Pilots?
Mesaba’s contract with Delta stipulated that the Flow Through Agreement is terminated
when Delta sells the airline. It also requires that the parties will meet prior to any
termination for the purpose of discussing whether continuation or modification would be
appropriate. With that in mind, the parties have agreed to honor flow for an interim
period while the parties discuss the possible continuation of flow through.

Certainly they had "successor" language in their contract. ??
I would hope so anyway.

Check,

There is a lot of history of Councils asking their LEC to recommend study and prepare for this eventuality. The LEC members in office at that time voted against their pilots' resolutions and voted in such a way as to enable management's flexibility with Compass.

Now it has come down and despite the fact we knew it was likely, it wasn't something we really wanted to look at, or prepare for.

The flow through, which was always flawed, will likely fail. Pilots will be placated through the summer flying season and then like a frog in a pot, the heat will be turned up without their taking notice.

Delta could announce an airplane order and this would be forgotten from the web boards instantly. Just another little scope failure carried out behind the house and forgotten. Eventually we'll blame Compass pilots for it.

What we are gonna give up??? You gotta be kidding me. The whole reason that Compass even came into existance is from our bk consessionary contract. I would like to know how much compass was worth during negotiations (certainly more than a mere $20 million and guessing more than $85 million.

What I mean is that when they got booted from the Delta MEC, they lost a seat at the only table that matters.

It blows my mind how helpless our schedulers are. They can't do anything that the computer doesn't tell them to do, can they? I start 5+ days tomorrow. Another reserve is good for 4 days.

Scheduling gives me a 4 day, and leaves the other guy on short call. Now normally this wouldn't be a big deal since we are both in the 4 day bucket, but.....there are 6 four days and a 5 day starting on the 3rd. There are now 3 guys to cover them. I even called them and asked them, and they said that's how the computer did it. I said I understand why the computer did it, but you guys are just hosing yourselves. Think outside the box for crying out loud!!!

Seems to me they are essentially wasting a reserve. :confused: