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Old 07-07-2010, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay View Post
The only thing that was sold was Compass and Mesaba.

There has been no, zip, zero, nada discussion of trading scope for pay.

I heard a rumor today. Reasonably intelligent pilots were getting spun up about things that haven't happened and aren't contemplated to happen. They're worried about scope sales when the company is hiring to staff a growing mainline operation. I can't possibly believe that could be true, especially since we've been through the Bucking Bar/Ad Lib and Slowplay show before (twice).

To all...make your input to your elected reps if you want to seek to maintain or cancel a flow with Compass and/or Mesaba. They will be the ones that direct what happens. The sky is not falling.
The question is not whether the flow stays or not. The question IS: If the flow is cancelled, will our MEC enforce our contract that REQUIRES a reduction in 76 seaters?? If our MEC decides not to enforce it and allow management to continue operating the current number of 76 seaters, would you consider that a scope sale??

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Old 07-07-2010, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Before you start throwing stones, remember we have two options, one the widget is in the back, one it is in the front. Which do you prefer?
It's gots'ta go on the front. How else can you brag about being a "big Widget" kinda guy
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ad Lib View Post
Then is the 2 degree below the equator carve out just for the 737?

I'll have to look it up.
Yeah, I think so. It was a compromise to bring the 700 rates up to par with the 800.
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
The question is not whether the flow stays or not. The question IS: If the flow is cancelled, will our MEC enforce our contract that REQUIRES a reduction in 76 seaters?? If our MEC decides not to enforce it and allow management to continue operating the current number of 76 seaters, would you consider that a scope sale??

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Beat me to the same question. But I was making dumb jokes.

I'm sure the company is going to come to us for relief on the 76 seat issue. The loads are up, demand appears to be recovering and the last thing the company wants to do (while they are on a roll so to speak) is to take seats out of the system.

Yes, I know we have MD-90s coming. But, enough fast enough? I say "let them eat cake"

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Old 07-07-2010, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
Well if you're going to add to the discourse just promise you want tell a mom and grandma joke, k?

1 of 2 ways, either click that yellow box above (rigt below the undo and redo arrows) and paste your pictures internet address or write IMG and then paste your internet address and then write /IMG again but now put brackets [ ] around the IMGs. If I do it now it goofs up this sentence so just remember [ ] around the IMGs.

If it didn't work, just know most pictures should end in a .jpg or .gif or what have you, if there is anything after the .jpg or .gif then erase it and re-preview and see if it works. Or pull a FTB and just hit SUBMIT REPLY HA HA HA, and then find out it doesn't work and scramble to correct it.
I tried it and it still doesn't work. When I preview all I get is a small blue box with a ? inside instead of the photo. Frustrating.

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92 View Post
how about delta butt pants? (primative but it gets the point across )

All I have to say is "POW"

and then "WOW!"

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
The question is not whether the flow stays or not. The question IS: If the flow is cancelled, will our MEC enforce our contract that REQUIRES a reduction in 76 seaters?? If our MEC decides not to enforce it and allow management to continue operating the current number of 76 seaters, would you consider that a scope sale??

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I truly hope we keep a Flow-up and Flow-down provision. It is good for all pilots. Anybody can fly these airplanes. The question is; "Can they fly them safely and efficiently with good customer service??"

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
I truly hope we keep a Flow-up and Flow-down provision. It is good for all pilots. Anybody can fly these airplanes. The question is; "Can they fly them safely and efficiently with good customer service??"

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Actually that's not the question. The question is whether our MEC will enforce our Scope section to the letter.

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Old 07-08-2010, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler View Post
The question is not whether the flow stays or not. The question IS: If the flow is cancelled, will our MEC enforce our contract that REQUIRES a reduction in 76 seaters?? If our MEC decides not to enforce it and allow management to continue operating the current number of 76 seaters, would you consider that a scope sale??

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The question is will our MEC actually kill the flow in order to get the reduction in 76 seaters? We have to agree to any continuation of the flow. If we decide to kill the flow, then the 76 seaters go away.

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I truly hope we keep a Flow-up and Flow-down provision. It is good for all pilots. Anybody can fly these airplanes. The question is; "Can they fly them safely and efficiently with good customer service??"

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Wouldn't that be a "scope sale"? We have an opportunity to reduce the number of 76 seat jets down to 85. All DALPA has to do is cancel the flow-through agreements. The sale of Compass and Mesaba gave us the power to do that.
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Old 07-08-2010, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot View Post
The golf game has never been better though: 65, 65 , 66 with a bunch of missed chances... Don't tell scheduling.

Really? Seriously? On a par 72 course? Why are you flying airplanes when you post scores like this? Obviously you have a negative handicap...we need to play -

It will be during the week though - "A" position on the 88 isn't much fun right now.
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