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Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 843616)
I find this very interesting, if not somewhat disturbing. What pilot would shut down their only remaining engine. Was this really a problem?
Good times. ;) |
On the MD88/90, the back of the QRH section has a paragraph basically saying the Captain can perform "common sense" action prior to executing memory items if it deems necessary.
Simple scenario. One of your engine has an uncontained severe engine damage at V1, you are now no longer bind by how we were trained and wait until the jet stabilizes and the PF calls for the QRH. The Captain can pull the fire handle when he deems necessary. It was how we trained in my recent CQ. I think it's in the right direction. I think in order for the crew to be able to do that, you need some system knowledge more than enough to pass the ESV. Don't you think? |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 843618)
Nope. It wasn't. They just liked to play games. At least where I was at, ExpressJet. They'd stick you in Durango, CO in blinding snow & then give you an engine fire on departure in icing conditions. Now you're not only dealing with a SE departure in IMC in moutainous terrain, but you need to exit icing conditions because you're SE.
Good times. ;) |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 843598)
Nothing like waking up @ 0400 to commute in only to have your first turn cancelled. :p
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 843566)
You're making me feel a little better. Still, I haven't taken an oral or had hard memory items in years.
D-dont E-ever L-leave T-the A-airbus :D |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 843618)
Nope. It wasn't. They just liked to play games. At least where I was at, ExpressJet. They'd stick you in Durango, CO in blinding snow & then give you an engine fire on departure in icing conditions. Now you're not only dealing with a SE departure in IMC in moutainous terrain, but you need to exit icing conditions because you're SE.
Good times. ;) |
Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 843616)
I find this very interesting, if not somewhat disturbing. What pilot would shut down their only remaining engine. Was this really a problem?
The instructor will try and put you in a bad situation by acting his/her role as ATC, a F/A, or a pretend jumpseater in your cockpit. I think these use of distractions are invaluable because it helps develop a pilot's ability to prioritize and focus adequately. This wasn't so much a problem as much as it was a well targeted training learning point. There has been plenty of accidents where bad prioritization and over miss-focus has snow-balled a minor emergency situation into a full blown accident. |
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 843648)
When i went to MSP for bus requal the instructor told us that DELTA stood for,
D-dont E-ever L-leave T-the A-airbus :D D-do E-everything L-like T-those A-***holes |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 843618)
Nope. It wasn't. They just liked to play games. At least where I was at, ExpressJet. They'd stick you in Durango, CO in blinding snow & then give you an engine fire on departure in icing conditions. Now you're not only dealing with a SE departure in IMC in moutainous terrain, but you need to exit icing conditions because you're SE.
Good times. ;) |
Originally Posted by rvr350
(Post 843636)
On the MD88/90, the back of the QRH section has a paragraph basically saying the Captain can perform "common sense" action prior to executing memory items if it deems necessary.
Simple scenario. One of your engine has an uncontained severe engine damage at V1, you are now no longer bind by how we were trained and wait until the jet stabilizes and the PF calls for the QRH. The Captain can pull the fire handle when he deems necessary. It was how we trained in my recent CQ. I think it's in the right direction. I think in order for the crew to be able to do that, you need some system knowledge more than enough to pass the ESV. Don't you think? |
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