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Nosmo King 07-23-2010 10:36 AM

Did anyone mention this in thread?

Boeing Admits Wing Safety Issue, Says Replacement Too Costly - Orlando News Story - WESH Orlando

reddog25 07-23-2010 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 844957)
Yeah, this is all over the radio here. :(

I believe this is the second finding against NWA since our merger. :mad:

Just one of the consequences NWA must have calculated when they set out to bust the mechanic union.

nwaf16dude 07-23-2010 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 845111)
Per FAR part 121 flights from the lower 48 to Alaska are dispatched under flag rules and not domestic. It has been this way for many years. This means that flight crews are bound by flag rules for duty and rest requirements. Maybe that's where the confusion comes from.

That's what I was asking about, just making sure I was ok to go to 32 in 7

sinca3 07-23-2010 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Howgozit (Post 845019)
Just had FAA guy on the jump seat, he said it is a dead issue and probably not going to happen.:mad:

Funny I just had one and he said the opposite! KInd of like the airlines, no one knows what is really going on.
Oh well....

caddis 07-23-2010 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 844897)

IMHO I am not sure if I see ALL of the 330 time moving from SEA.


This was briefed by RA. They are moving them east out of SEA is what was said, no word on to were.

They are going to buy the higher weight certification and the extra crew rest facility and start flying it on 12+ legs. One of the Big Bus guys can probably fill in some details on range and loads with higher certs.

acl65pilot 07-23-2010 02:47 PM

The crew rest mod is a good deal, and the extra weight will allow it to do these 12 hr legs with no hits to payload.

They may move the time from SEA, but I would not be overly surprised to see a little 330 time from MSP or DTW move as well, hence my point.

If that is what will occur there will be a ton of guys getting MDed off the ER back east once again. I think it will happen with other events to mitigate that effect. Just my .02

scambo1 07-23-2010 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 845220)
The crew rest mod is a good deal, and the extra weight will allow it to do these 12 hr legs with no hits to payload.

They may move the time from SEA, but I would not be overly surprised to see a little 330 time from MSP or DTW move as well, hence my point.

If that is what will occur there will be a ton of guys getting MDed off the ER back east once again. I think it will happen with other events to mitigate that effect. Just my .02

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Oh do tell what these "other events" might be.

I'd bid that 330 its a pretty capable jet. And its int'l. not mixed.

forgot to bid 07-23-2010 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Nosmo King (Post 845129)

If Airbus and Embraer supposedly makes "throw away planes" then we can say Boeing makes "disintegrating planes".

Let's face it, trying to make light of this sorry news, that we should just accept what's coming... we're all going to be flying Dash 8-100s and 200s in a few years.

Stratosphere 07-23-2010 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 844938)
How serious were they, or were they just paperwork stuff?

Northwest Airlines found to violate FAA rules

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  • A federal investigation finds Northwest Airlines violated FAA safety directives
  • The investigation by the U.S. Office of Special Counsel corroborates a whistleblower
  • The whistleblower alleged the carrier did not have adequate policies and procedures
(CNN) -- Northwest Airlines violated more than 1,000 Federal Aviation Administration safety directives, the U.S. Office of Special Counsel has found, substantiating complaints of an FAA whistleblower.
Northwest, now merged with Delta Airlines, engaged in "systemic non-compliance with FAA Airworthiness Directives," the investigation concluded, referring to government rules designed to remedy an unsafe or potentially unsafe condition.
"Despite Northwest's history of Airworthiness Directive non-compliance," the Office of Special Counsel said, "FAA inspectors continued to work collaboratively with Northwest to resolve deficiencies, and closing enforcement cases primarily by issuing letters of correction rather than seeking civil penalties."
Whistleblower Mark Lund of the FAA's former Northwest inspection office in Bloomington, Minnesota, alleged that the carrier did not have adequate policies and procedures in place in 2008 to ensure compliance with safety regulations.
"The investigation substantiated Mr. Lund's allegations," wrote Associate Special Counsel William Reukauf in a letter to President Baracl Obama.
In response to the findings, FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt has established a review team to oversee the carrier's compliance. The FAA also proposed disciplinary action against two Northwest managers.
The FAA released a statement Thursday saying that the agency "has taken corrective action on the issues identified in the whistleblower complaint and is continuing to monitor compliance."

Gee I dunno wheel assemblies flying off landing aircraft not once but 11 times. DC-10 serious lav blue juice leak into the electronics bay and allowed to fly over the pond I would say that is more than paperwork and that is only a few of the things that were covered up there. But of course I am just a disgruntled former ex nw mechanic so my word doesn't count. Read this interesting tid bit


http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...0000689813.htm

Nosmo King 07-23-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by caddis (Post 845210)
They are going to buy the higher weight certification and the extra crew rest facility and start flying it on 12+ legs. One of the Big Bus guys can probably fill in some details on range and loads with higher certs.

DL has abandoned the idea of 12+ hour legs on the A330 and ALPA has withdrawn from any further CROT negotiations. (Source: The WIDGET, Summer 2010)


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 845220)
The crew rest mod is a good deal, and the extra weight will allow it to do these 12 hr legs with no hits to payload.

The crew rest mod is not a good deal for the pilots unless you like trading the 1 bedroom luxury condo for the bunk bed cellar room underneath the noisy bathrooms and noisy aft galley after you climb down the 80 degree incline ladder. Maybe for an ER pilot its a good deal but for an existing 330 pilot its a huge downgrade in rest capability and comfort.


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