Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)
-   -   Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta.html)

johnso29 08-14-2010 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 855667)
I thought "personality" was plural in that case! :D

Man I sure hope so! What if it was singular in this case!!:eek:


:p

Scoop 08-14-2010 09:30 AM

Ground Air??
 
There have been a lot of posts about single engine taxi and APU but I have not seen anyone inquire about our ground air. A couple of points:

1. It should be automatic - we should not have to ask.
2. If the guys hook the hose up with 17 kinks - call and ask them to fix it. If we keep fixing it they will never bother to do it right.
3. Who maintains our A/C units - The Marx brothers? Why is it that they so often do not work? Its not like A/C being about 100 years old could still be considered cutting edge technology. It seems far too many of our gates lack working power and air. I wonder how often the A/C does not work on the 4th floor?

Scoop

Superpilot92 08-14-2010 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 855589)



Super's Facebook .


How dare you steal my family photos!!! ;)

LOBO 08-14-2010 10:31 AM

Jeppesen Airside Service vs. EFB
 
Why is momma D getting a service (Jeppesen Airside) instead of pursuing EFBs? Didn't they invite several companies to HQ a little over a year ago to view what was out there. It seems like they are sidestepping a true solution.

Dash8widget 08-14-2010 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 855713)
There have been a lot of posts about single engine taxi and APU but I have not seen anyone inquire about our ground air. A couple of points:

1. It should be automatic - we should not have to ask.
2. If the guys hook the hose up with 17 kinks - call and ask them to fix it. If we keep fixing it they will never bother to do it right.
3. Who maintains our A/C units - The Marx brothers? Why is it that they so often do not work? Its not like A/C being about 100 years old could still be considered cutting edge technology. It seems far too many of our gates lack working power and air. I wonder how often the A/C does not work on the 4th floor?

Scoop

Being MSP based I've just made it a habit to ask for air every time we park there - but you're right, it should be automatic. A few weeks ago when taxing into the gate in MSP, ops TOLD us to keep the APU running since it was hot out and they weren't going to hook up air. When I insisted on having air hooked up I was informed that it was too hot and the ground air just couldn't keep up so they weren't going to use it. I had to explain to them that the 88 APU wouldn't keep up by itself either and we intended to use both APU and jetway air. It was like pulling teeth to get it done - but we did end up staying nice and cool :cool:

StormChaser 08-14-2010 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 855713)
There have been a lot of posts about single engine taxi and APU but I have not seen anyone inquire about our ground air. A couple of points:

1. It should be automatic - we should not have to ask.
2. If the guys hook the hose up with 17 kinks - call and ask them to fix it. If we keep fixing it they will never bother to do it right.
3. Who maintains our A/C units - The Marx brothers? Why is it that they so often do not work? Its not like A/C being about 100 years old could still be considered cutting edge technology. It seems far too many of our gates lack working power and air. I wonder how often the A/C does not work on the 4th floor?

Scoop

Showed up to an airplane (A320) in ATL yesterday that had the APU on MEL. No air had been connected (airplane had arrived at gate 1/2 hour prior to us getting there), and the external power at some point had been disconnected by the ground crew, leaving the airplane powered by the batteries.

Once we were able to find a couple of ground crew to come out and plug us back in with power, I walked down to the ramp to find them looking around at the belly of the airplane trying to find out where the connection point was for the external air. :eek: Really??? Once I showed them where the receptacle door was located, one of them looked at the receptacle and since it didn't look familiar to him, he said he didn't think the air hose from the jetway would connect. I assured him it would, and after another few minutes we finally had air on the plane.

So the Airbus is still somewhat new to ATL (not really), but seeing as how it's a major hub and with all the focus on "Project APU", how can there still be ground crews that have no idea how or where to connect air to the airplane? :confused:

Carl Spackler 08-14-2010 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 855649)
Interesting, so we all really worked for the post office at some point, I'm changing my name to Cliff Claven.:D Should be a pair at the Delta Museum? That would be an interesting exhibit, the family tree done in wings.

Ferd

Well you know, a little known fact is that the ancient mesopotamians were the first to create the museum...and the first post office.

Cliff/Carl

acl65pilot 08-14-2010 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by LOBO (Post 855742)
Why is momma D getting a service (Jeppesen Airside) instead of pursuing EFBs? Didn't they invite several companies to HQ a little over a year ago to view what was out there. It seems like they are sidestepping a true solution.


Airside pubs are a quick fix, and efb's require a capital outlay. The fourth generation efb's look promising. I see this flight deck pubs as a interim solution to a weight as well as crew room real estate issue. Wonder if we will have two crew rooms in atl after we go to these.....

PilotFrog 08-14-2010 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 855649)
Interesting, so we all really worked for the post office at some point, I'm changing my name to Cliff Claven.:D Should be a pair at the Delta Museum? That would be an interesting exhibit, the family tree done in wings.

Ferd

Are we eligible for a Post Office pension plan?

newKnow 08-14-2010 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 855747)
.... A few weeks ago when taxing into the gate in MSP, ops TOLD us to keep the APU running since it was hot out and they weren't going to hook up air. When I insisted on having air hooked up I was informed that it was too hot and the ground air just couldn't keep up so they weren't going to use it. I had to explain to them that the 88 APU wouldn't keep up by itself either and we intended to use both APU and jetway air. It was like pulling teeth to get it done - but we did end up staying nice and cool :cool:


Originally Posted by StormChaser (Post 855750)
....Once we were able to find a couple of ground crew to come out and plug us back in with power, I walked down to the ramp to find them looking around at the belly of the airplane trying to find out where the connection point was for the external air. :eek: Really??? Once I showed them where the receptacle door was located, one of them looked at the receptacle and since it didn't look familiar to him, he said he didn't think the air hose from the jetway would connect. I assured him it would, and after another few minutes we finally had air on the plane.

I'm willing to bet that ground crew excuses as to why they can't do something increase proportionally for every degree they work and it's outside the range of 55-80 degrees. :rolleyes:


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:51 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands