Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 856899)

In my limited experience with the bus, you don't have to necessarily be early, just aggressive. I came into DTW late the other night, around 130K. Did 250KIAS until 8 mi out, then went managed speed, gear down, full boards, and dropped the flaps on speed, and it worked out great. Maybe it worked because we didn't have a Vapp of 123KIAS in a 319 with crummy AT. :o

It was a smooth as glass evening, and that helps a lot. You really have to be careful in turbulent, gusty conditions as to not overspeed the flaps. Truth is, you just have to be aggressive or you won't make it.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 856717)

FTB,

All I can say is that ALL DC-9 are hot when the surface temperatures are in the upper 80's and above. Like 88 said, you have to stay in front of them and cool the cabin on approach and you MUST get ground air to go along with the APU. Even then, with APU and ground air, normally that just keeps the cabin down to the luke-warm status. On normal hot summer days, as a DC-9 driver, you are only cool when 1.) you are in the terminal or, 2.) above FL 180.

The fixes I have seen on the -9 are the shields for the cockpit windows and the window shades being pulled down and gaspers opened int he main cabin. Other than those, I don't know what we can do.

The few -88's I have been on this summer had no heat/cooling issues that I noticed. But, maybe that was because I had just gotten off a DC-9. :D

I wonder how the MD-90's are with cooling.....

Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 856913)

Johnso....250 till 8 out? using Marine math that put you at 2400' AGL. 1400' to slow down while descending on the glide slope. Your superior flying skills made that happen:) I certainly wouldn't recommend that as the norm. Was the Capt giving you those little hints like hand twitching?

Hope we can fly together, I'd like to see that decel, descend maneuver

Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 856913)

Johnso....250 till 8 out? using Marine math that put you at 2400' AGL. 1400' to slow down while descending on the glide slope. Your superior flying skills made that happen:) I certainly wouldn't recommend that as the norm. Was the Capt giving you those little hints like hand twitching?

Hope we can fly together, I'd like to see that decel, descend maneuver

Originally Posted by Launchpad475 (Post 856841)

All the other news was about the same as we have heard here before, I'll just say that things seems to be pretty upbeat around there. Nice to be back.

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 856491)

All of that pales in comparison to the money spent buying off people when we are oversold.

Delta is always #1 by far in DOT overbooking and denied boarding.

They must make money doing it because they don't seem to care.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 856529)

Or, if it's that heavy, you could just start both engines. :rolleyes:

There is a point where trying to SE taxi can be unsafe. Turning off essential systems to trick or by-pass the system is that point, for me.

I guess what I'm saying is that maybe we shouldn't be so gun-ho to be SE taxing in in every situation. You could cost the company more money than any amount of fuel you are trying to save.

http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/a...rplanefail.jpg

(It's not a joke and I wish I could have found an image that didn't have "FAIL" on it. But, you get my point.)

But hey, I heard that this is a captains airline. So, you guys do what you want. I'll be rolling abound with two running in those situations where it's too heavy or too hot to SE taxi, even if it's close.

New K Now (Won't be pushing the envelope to SE taxi. But, I'll by the drinks to help you in your loss in profit sharing.) :D