I thought gunfighter was using a dirty word when describing the hotel and thats why there were the ***s. :D It made sense, funny it was just the name.


3 MD90s used = 1 738 new. Hmmm. How many used A319s can we get are hands on to be the future small jet in lieu of Ejets and Cjets. I mean more A319s doesn't require, probably, any more sims for instance, different suppliers, different pilot/fa/mx/tech training.

717s? Hmm. The one thing about that airplane is if you can run a single category for Saudi MD90s and 717s then it makes getting the Saudi 90s all that much better. You won't have a small subfleet of pilots for instance. You'll have a lot of flexibility and you'll have a 93, 94 and 95 replacement in the 717.

The irony would be buying Airtran equipment 20 years after they bought DAL 9s.

I'm not speaking for ACL but when I was hired the merger rumors were strong and a manager was having a Q&A with our class and someone asked about moving away from the all Boeing idea by now getting Airbuses. He said when it came to acquisitions, it was good not to be Boeing only. When it came to maintenance you don't get much cheaper, actually we'd already be maxed out, because we'd have a large fleet of whatever we've got. FWIW.

I guess Manaus is being discontinued in January. Joins Fortaleza and Recife as having been discontinued. Hows the town I grew up in for a while, Brasilia, doing?

In 1993 we nearly did because of over 4 Billion dollars of LBO debt being piled atop a company that had zero debt prior to the LBO. Had nothing to do with flying DC-9's. How do you think Delta would have faired in 1993 if somebody had LBO'd you and put 4 Billion of debt on your balance sheet?

In 2005, we did file. Someone else did as well on the same day...who was that again? Can't think of the name but it was probably another DC-9 airline. ;)

See above...after you check with management first that is.

Carl

I've never cared how management decides to show a delay. Never have, never will. I move at my best, safest pace from the moment I arrive at the airport. That's all I can do. How they account for things couldn't interest me less.

Carl

Pay rate simplicity could help us take better advantage of the diverse fleet. If we went with 3-4 tiers instead of rates for every piece of equipment, it would reduce training and moving costs. I'd propose we capture the cost savings for reduced training by bringing up the overall pay rates.

I agree, start with bringing the 9, 88 and 90 into 1 pay rate... wait, I take that back because are we going to base on seats or what the aircraft does? I mean the 88 and 320 should be the same if its on seats, but its not. The 90 and 738 should be the same now as 160 seates. The 757 has 10 varieties of seating configurations. :eek:

So what 3-4 tiers should there be? NB? WB? Range? INTL/DOM?

Interested to see what people think.

I have heard a lot of talk for an against that idea. Both sides of the issue have very good points. I know that at CAL the 757 is a Long Narrow but the 767 is a wide, which leads to another composite rate. My point is that even there they have issues with it. It is something that should be discussed though.
What I do know is a lot of ppl do not want to allow jets bigger than the 777/744 to be lumped in with that rate and with good cause.

M88; I think FtB did a good job explaining it. We have huge fleets of jets which in many cases are bigger than most other airlines. That allows more fleets. Also we still have by in large part a simplistic fleet plan. The savings we garnish from having the right jet on the right route on a given day allows the diversity of the fleet.

Bingo, Carl.

Slow gets the special ed post of the day. I couldn't believe what I was reading when I read that. Especially since widget land was a management fart away from going full belly up a few short years ago.

Found a video of slowplay at the latest Widget Management convention! He's not hard to pick out.

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