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Old 08-19-2010 | 11:42 AM
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Hey FtB, you max seating on the 767 is incorrect!
Old 08-19-2010 | 11:47 AM
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Hey FtB, you max seating on the 767 is incorrect!
Just gone done reading 8 pages it felt like, I'm on it. I think I just threw in the coach seating or something.... stby...
Old 08-19-2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


Anybody want to come up with some tiers?

NB and WB's by range then seating? And why do you get paid more for cruising? Huh? Huh? Some of us 5-leggers per day would like to know!?
Time/value of money too... Quit drawing the stupid line from little right to big left and letting the chips fall... It is a retarded methodology.

Did I mention I don't like the way it's been done for the past thousand years?
Old 08-19-2010 | 11:52 AM
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I couldn't give you a raise New, that is above my paygrade. I gave you the next best thing.
Old 08-19-2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mem9guy
First bring the DC-9 (will now be a 125 seater with the parking of the 30's and 40's,) MD-88, MD-90, 320/319, 737 700/800, all into one tier based on the current 737 rates.

Next tier would be the 757/7ER tier based on current 767 pay.

Finally a widebody tier for the 767-400, 330, 777, 787, 747 based on 747 pay rates.

Coupled with good international and redeye types of overides.

We felt that this would do several things for our pay system:

Reduce training cycles as there would be less chasing of payrates.

Provide marketing with the ability to plan routes with labor costs being less variable. Planners love "fixed costs"

Help to move us from a pay system that was set up to maximize "final average earnings" in the last 5 years for a pension based retirement to a system that gives a more steady increase over the average career to fit the current defined contribution system that favors "time value of money" for retirement.

Only three aircraft types to discuss at the negotiating table as all others would slot into one of these.
Its an idea. If you look at the 767/757 fleet alone you see a wide variety of seating configurations and range capabilities but all the same rate plus an international override.

So why not put the 95, 88, 90, 737, 738, 319 and 320 together?

Now, honestly I look at the 737 every once in a while and consider wanting to go to it for the pay and trips. But if I got paid the same, it'd take years before I'd want to bid off my beloved Maddog.

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Has anyone head Satch's ELT going off? He evidently went missing. Or does nobody listen to guard? Hmmm? Annoying frequency? Too much guard police driving you nuts? Too many false calls. ATC searching for planes getting old? Cessna being intercepted in a TFR bor... wait, no, that was interesting to listen to. Went on for half an hour until the fighter pulled up on their wing and checked in. I had a buddy at Coex flying an ATR-42-320 (slow model of a slow plane) and got intercepted at random a month after 9/11. For fun they pulled the power down by half just to watch the F16 adjust. Some people are funny.
Old 08-19-2010 | 12:15 PM
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Has anyone head Satch's ELT going off? He evidently went missing.
He and I recently flew together. He started talkin trash about my beloved VOLS.. and in a scene reminiscent of The Shining.. I "corrected" him...
Old 08-19-2010 | 12:17 PM
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Add overrides for cranky cat ranchers.
Old 08-19-2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
He and I recently flew together. He started talkin trash about my beloved VOLS.. and in a scene reminiscent of The Shining.. I "corrected" him...
LOL! Too funny. Considering he hasn't posted since, you must have done something to him for sure.

I could picture you up in the cockpit mumbling red rum, red rum, red rum, and then when Satch went on break he probably saw 80 in the aisle with a three-wheeler and then he ran to his seat and pulled the curtain closed where he shivered all break and failed to sleep until 30 minutes left till the end of his break and finding no sollace in Big Love's episodes. And then 20 minutes prior to the end of his break T pops his head between the curtains saying "HERE'S TSQUARE! NOW BLOCK THIS FIELD GOAL PUNK!"

Yeah T, dudes probably so screwed up he actually thinks Bama would've won if McCoy hadn't gone out off a cheap shot.

If that doesn't get him back to posting nothing will. HA HA HA!
Old 08-19-2010 | 12:52 PM
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I just saw that we're adding more LHR flights with 216 seat 767s. Is that the ER with lie flats added?

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Old 08-19-2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


Anybody want to come up with some tiers?

NB and WB's by range then seating? And why do you get paid more for cruising? Huh? Huh? Some of us 5-leggers per day would like to know!?

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FTB;

Big fan of your posts, but this is a 10 second no vote. Thanks for playing.
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