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I know you as well as many others are interested in restoration. Does your definition of restoration include scope? Are we in agreement that C2K plus anything is not even a starting point if further scope RELIEF is asked for?

 

The pilots compensation level is a small part of the operating an aircraft...... We continually sell ourselves short by thinking what we had in not obtainable. What we need is pre-BK compensation + COLA.

 

Well I do know that if everyone used maximum efficiency , and se taxis now, it would hurt a lot more in January 2013 when/if we need to stop....

 

All this talk of SE taxi cracks me up..... It's the captains ship and if wants to spin 2 engines its his prerogative. We shouldn't be on here whining about how other pilots at our airline operate the aircraft they have been given charge as long as it's within the operational parameters set forth by mother Delta.

 

Look I don't argue with the CA about SE Taxi. I merely try to encourage it. IDK why guys are stuck on the NWA no SE taxi mentality. You don't have to start em both every leg, & you don't have to SE taxi every leg. But if it's a 30+ min taxi in LGA and the WX stinks in MSP or SLC why wouldn't you want to conserve fuel for when you're in the air? Why would you run two when it's not operationally necessary? Its just silly.

 

Doesn't hurt to plant the seed in their minds though. That's the whole point. When a culture has been built around limitations that don't really exist, education is the key on creating that change.

 

Good assessment, Slow. Just one minor tweak to the way I think this should be framed...

I don't think what we want is "more". (I mean, it is but it isn't... bear with me.) I for one would just be happy to get back to where we were before airline pilot compensation was radically and unnecessarily changed. Until we get there, I don't consider anything we get a "raise", i.e "more". In other words, I do not consider our current situation some new "baseline" from which we would seek historically traditional improvements.

I know you understand all that. But I also think the way we frame it matters.

Anyway, just my "2 cents"...

 

I understand your guys wanting to save some fuel..... I just don't agree that whining about how another pilot operates an aircraft is our place.

 

Well that I agree with.

 

This is not what they are putting out at the schoolhouse. I know of no limits in Volume 1, but we were told anything above 40% is reported to FOQA.

My entire point about the SE taxi is that although I think we should do it, as a FO that's new to the fleet and new to a North base, it's really up to you as the LCA pilots to encourage this cultural change with your Captains. After I've been in the fleet a little longer, I will spend more effort trying to influence these changes.

I'm the first South guy that most every pilot in my base has flown with. One of the first issues I have to deal with now is giving them the first leg to let them vent about the manuals, checklist and all the changes they've been through. After the first leg it's all good. I figure by the second or third rotation we fly together might be a good time to start encouraging them to taxi SE. A little CRM goes a long way.

V/R, TC