Originally Posted by Kingbird87

I don't weigh in here often, but have noticed a bit more FNWA thread items about various issues from SE taxi, Spies in the cockpit, irate IAM baggage handlers etc. muddying things up. NWA is in the history books. I work for Delta. As such, there have been a lot of changes for me to absorb. Most of them have been very positive. We aren't arguing anymore about whether Delta or NWA will survive, merge with Brand X, get more RJ's, or furlough. That is all very positive, and change made those concerns go away. From my isolated corner of the airline, this summer has been enlightening. We MADE a lot of money! Certainly a lot more than Delta or NWA ever hoped of making standing alone. I applaud management for going for it with the ramp up. We also spread a lot of ill will in the process. I would estimate 75% of my flights in June, July and early August had some sort of delay, maintenance, inop APU or boarding issues. That is a change that everyone would agree has not been welcome, and my apology dialogue is wearing thin. The WDR problems are being resolved, more mechanics being hired and I believe management is addressing the problems. I personally and unfortunately, perceive a recalcitrance on the pilot management side of the house to entertain any review of best practices to fix any issues that may have worked well at the former NWA. Everyone knows the IT problems are causing big headaches with scheduling, flight plan updates, reroutes, and providing basic arrival information necessary for station ops. What is such a big deal about adding ACARS functionality, two releases for the cockpit, a reroute or flight plan change that doesn't use 22 linear feet of printer paper? Who or what is standing in the way of such small fixes being implemented?
My information is from my Chief Pilot that the two release thing has caused huge arguments up the food chain and the issue is not open for discussion anymore. If true, someone needs to head back to the line. I used to have a document that had everything I needed to reference in my grubby hands, and the other pilot had the same thing. Can that somehow be a bad thing? These are small issues and we get the job done in spite of them. If one plus one equals three, as evidenced by the profit of the New Delta, then I would hope that the solutions we have to fix Flight Operation's problems would come irrespective of whether they were initiated on Virginia Avenue or Lone Oak Drive.

Originally Posted by buzzpat

Big difference Nu...the ground guys NOT doing their job are DELTA. Picking up a bag, or unkinking the hose is not busting them for protecting their work...its doing the right thing for our mutual company. I'm all for protecting their work...especially if I don't have to do their job. This crap happens all the time in DTW. It needs to be fixed ASAP.

Originally Posted by 1234

FWIW, there are far more times than I can remember where I went down to get a stroller, bag, etc for passengers waiting in the jetway. I have also carried some down prior to departure and have NEVER had any response other than "thanks for the help" from my fellow co-workers (fNWA).

Originally Posted by georgetg

Totally agree that the situation about dragging their heels and taking their time, let alone not doing the job, needs to be fixed pronto.

On the other hand I admire their scope clause... That pay provision in their contract prevents having some of their job duties outsourced to a 3rd party (aka DGS) and provides for a poison pill should that occur. Perhaps we can learn something about scope and contract language.

It's all a matter of how you chose to look at it...

Cheers
George

Originally Posted by jiminmem

I've also never had an issue helping out with strollers or wheel chairs. I'm not sure if this is a recent change, but I've never heard of this 6 hour pay slip or to not touch a bag.

Originally Posted by buzzpat

Scope shouldn't protect people who routinely fail to perform or, more egregious in my book, intentionally don't do their job in attempts to prove a point to the company. I'm all for scope, I'm not for consistent refusal to perform required tasks. I really haven't had many problems at MSP or MEM. My ***** is with what is an obvious work slowdown in DTW. Can you imagine what would happen to pilots or FAs if we routinely chose not to perform our duties? Scope or no scope, we'd be on the street.

Originally Posted by Kingbird87

I used to have a document that had everything I needed to reference in my grubby hands, and the other pilot had the same thing. Can that somehow be a bad thing?

Originally Posted by Xray678

Do you really look at the flight plan so much that there needs to be two of them? I don't know what you can be looking at so in depth that one flight plan can't work for both pilots. Especially on a domestic leg.

Originally Posted by Xray678

Do you really look at the flight plan so much that there needs to be two of them? I don't know what you can be looking at so in depth that one flight plan can't work for both pilots. Especially on a domestic leg.