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09-16-2010, 08:29 AM

#47721

newKnow

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2007

Position: 765-A

Posts: 6,844

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Originally Posted by NERD

What is the historical percentile for being a line holder in a domestic category at Delta been? 2008-2009 were not realistic due to the overstaffing in some cats. that the company held vs displacing. Would 75-80% be realistic?

Hey Gramps! Where are you trying to go?

09-16-2010, 08:33 AM

#47722

Mem9guy

ATL A320 B

Joined APC: Oct 2009

Position: No longer MEM or 9, but still a guy.

Posts: 238

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeineLodge

Anyone doing the ATL-MEM commute? How are the loads generally? Is FedEx a good backup, or more of a hassle than it's worth? Are jumpseats usually available?

How is the crashpad situation in MEM? Do you need a car? Are there cheap commuter hotels?

I'm coming from DTW so I'm not willing to go over $37/night for a commuter hotel

Thanks!

Right now ATL-MEM has about 11 flights a day in a variety of sizes of aircraft. Loads are pretty high, but usually a few seats.

Crashpad situation in MEM, very few choices, all of which I believe that you will need a car to use.

Commuter hotel situation is pretty pathetic. Most run $50.00 plus and very few in close to the airport are places that you would actually want to stay at.

Sorry not to have better news...

09-16-2010, 08:43 AM

#47723

LeineLodge

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2008

Position: DAL FO

Posts: 2,142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mem9guy

Thanks for the insiders view. Maybe I'll hang out in DTW a while longer. It's just tempting to go down to MEM after seeing the last flight home from DTW to ATL is at 7:30pm (Last MSP-ATL is even worse, 6:30 I believe - Yuck

) FedEx would be nice to make just about everything commutable.

09-16-2010, 08:46 AM

#47724

alfaromeo

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Joined APC: Apr 2008

Posts: 1,619

Quote:

Originally Posted by newKnow

Ok. That's goes along with what I learned initially But, since fNWA 757's did Europe and Asia flying, wouldn't you say that they were doing ER flying before the merger? Or, is there something else I'm missing? I'm just trying to get the whole argument that DTW and MSP 757 category's should have been put up for a complete rebid like SLC and CVG 767 category's.....

Factually, you are correct. After Delta expanded to Europe, the ATL and NYC categories had very sweet flying. Almost all three day trips, pilots could decide to summer in Paris and winter in Nice, lots of great destinations, all three man crews. That is the "ER" flying that those guys were used to. Now, that flying has been broken up to other jets, other bases, and (gasp) even to pilots from that "other" airline. Instead of losing their jobs, they have had that lost time filled in with domestic flying.

So, yes, NWA did "ER" flying, just not as much and not as concentrated in two groups of pilots. The funny part is that fNWA pilots look at "Narita" flying in much the same nostalgic way. When fDAL pilots show up in their flying club, we sometimes get dirty looks. At some point, it will all be accepted as the new norm, but pilots hate change, it takes a while.

09-16-2010, 08:59 AM

#47725

Superpilot92

Underboob King

Joined APC: May 2005

Position: Guppy Commander

Posts: 4,412

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mem9guy

so much for giving up the forum huh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeineLodge

) FedEx would be nice to make just about everything commutable.

Like Memguy said, mem isnt very commuter friendly as far as crashpads go, you'll likely need a car and the hotels arent cheap like dtw. theres alot of RJ's in Mem which has made my commute get progressively worse with the cut in capacity. I'm thinking about switching out of mem because of that. Plus memphis is pretty senior so it'll be a while to hold a line there for me so it may be time for me to switch bases.

Its a great base though and i'd love to stay there but i'm sticking with the bid for QOL idea. fwiw

09-16-2010, 09:06 AM

#47726

acl65pilot

Happy to be here

Joined APC: Jun 2006

Position: A-320A

Posts: 18,563

Quote:

Originally Posted by forgot to bid

Who do we have to replace him?

IMHO I'm sure he'll do great at ALPA national. Probably just needs to walk through the door and he'd already do more than Prater, but frankly, all I care about is DALPA.

To me national is kind of like having your local specialized whatever union representing both the unionized members and the non-unionized members and the illegals hired to do the same job. Until it has a sole purpose of safety of all airlines and the other interests of the mainline and regional pilots is split then I don't think either is getting what they deserve.

I nominate, Carl and Slow for DALPA.

I typed out some really long response to the second paragraph, but the responses might take 1000 posts so I will shorten it.

ALPA, IFALPA and an association of MEC's is very important. Look at what RJET is trying to do with the Star Alliance. You will never see another ALPA group welcome that. Getting rid of National will be like opening up Pandora's Box.

Global Market places needs a global association, and ALPA and IFALPA are it. We just need to fix its issues. Starting over will result in to many opportunities to take pot shots at this profession.

09-16-2010, 09:23 AM

#47727

tsquare

No longer cares

Joined APC: Mar 2008

Position: 767er Captain

Posts: 12,109

Gaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..... just forget it.

09-16-2010, 09:27 AM

#47728

tsquare

No longer cares

Joined APC: Mar 2008

Position: 767er Captain

Posts: 12,109

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOGA LK

So if you were a junior block holder you would rather fall back to reserve than have the option of exercising an MD and moving to another category in which you could hold a line. Seriously, think back to when you had no seniority to even be senior on something. Again, I gave a clear examples of why I think this AE system is dated.

The reference was to Delta's 80 year history, we might as well start from scratch and come up with something that's modern and efficient in lieu of something you would expect back in the 70's (40 years later) when everything was done by hand. This AE system is a "one of a kind." I would be very interested to see the demographics of the guys that created and molded this system into a contract

I have no seniority now in the current category I am in. Downside is that if I leave I will never get back.. well not for a long time anyway.. and believe it or not I am not complaining. Anyway, I'm not arguing the merits of a monthly bid.. I just don't want the split block/reserve thingy.

09-16-2010, 09:33 AM

#47729

tsquare

No longer cares

Joined APC: Mar 2008

Position: 767er Captain

Posts: 12,109

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo

Change happens, some people deal with it better than others.

OK.. maybe I am a little over sensitive right now about this, but I'll take that as a barb thrown squarely at me. I will remind all of you that are throwing said barbs that all I said from the beginning of this rhubarb is that I thought FrogPilot had a good point.. and I offered an explanation as to why. I also said, that basically it is what it is.. but nonetheless he had a valid point. I even further said that I was willing to let this go, yet you guys keep dragging me back into this argument. It is my opinion.. and like you, I am entitled to it. And contrary to popular belief, my opinion can be changed, just not in this case. Witness my recent civil relationship with Carl.

Done