Carl,

I'm back from my cocktail and the hot tub. Did you get your experience from the military or from the civilian world prior to NWA?

If you want to blame RJ guys what about the guys who got hired before their company got any RJ's? Once their company ordered RJ's should they have quit their jobs even when they didn't have the experience to come to a mainline carrier?

We all worked hard to get here. At least us young guys are trying to keep scope from eroding any further. We get it. Were not going to give away the farm like you senior guys did and then blame someone else for their mistakes. You talk about facts but your wrong. You watch from your 6 story throne. Us young guys lived in the mess you created. We did everything we could from our seat. Hell, my base refused to go to training on the 70 seat RJ when it showed up. Our fight failed after a year but we tried.

APA pilots at least tried to fly the RJ's. Maybe this DPA thingy has some merit.


This is the most important thing------ WE ALL WOULD HAVE PREFERED BEING JUNIOR ON A MAINLINE LIST FLYING THESE PLANES. EVERYONE I'VE EVER FLOWN WITH AT A REGIONAL AGREES WITH THIS. WHEN WE GOT INTO THIS BUISINESS WE THOUGHT WE'D FLY TURBOPROPS AT A $HITTY REGIONAL AND MOVE ON TO A MAJOR IN THE SMALLEST JET. Somehow, somewhere, someone screwed up and allowed small jets at the regional level. Lets fix it.

 

So there.

 

Do we all have to get in the same bed, together?

If so, I'm sure someone will make the comment "those aren't pillows!" But what if they're not just being funny?

And will we hire anyone to entertain us with pillow fights? And who will we hire? And do we get a vote? Do we get to vote on who does the hiring?

I'm really upset and worried that someone is going to put their hands between two pillows that aren't and we're going to end up hiring two RJ dudes to pillow fight because "they're cheaper." I'm very upset. I don't want to be fondled while trying to gouge out my own eyes.




Man, you really know how to make a guy feel bad about eating his miniature, albeit annoying, owl.

 

A good sock hop would solve all scope issues.

I'm just trying to "think outside the box."

 

Well said. I was in this exact group. I was in my mid 30's and in the top 25% of my regional's seniority list. I chose to make the jump and my biggest fear after the economy tanking was scope being sold even more. Scope is still my biggest fear, because I'm close enough to the bottom where I'd get furloughed if our union caves again.

 

Good way for the police officer to get shot and killed if the driver had a weapon. Funny video nonetheless!!

 

Maybe we should elect that guy for MEC Chairman.

Or better yet, maybe Chuck Norris for MEC Chairman.
(Chuck Norris doesn't Negotiate, you just comply with his demands!)

 

Fault - One night many yrs ago the Capt and I started talking about the B scale. Republic had one and I was on it. Said Capt stated that all us B scalers were SCABS for taking a job under such wages. I agrued that he was at fault for voting it in. I was on probation so he ranted and I listened. Very simular to the RJ issue. Does not matter who is at fault, the time has come for it to go away. UAL/CAL wanting to bring the RJ's in house is a great start.

 

It'd be nice of DALPA mad a public announcement that what UCAL is doing with scope is something we fully support as a union instead of letting them stand alone among legacy carriers.

 

I am not necessarily in favor of complete scope restoration. We all know that the money is in the 100 seat jet. We should ensure that DAL pilots fly that airplane, whenever it comes. As far as the 76 seat and below, whats done is done. If we go and make a huge stink during contract talks and try to get THAT flying back as well, management will only laugh their asses off as they sell it back to us knowing full well that they want to get rid of that aircraft when the 100 seater comes.

The cost to regain the 76 and smaller aircraft will be too great and ultimately worthless.