Interesting. Could you imagine the scope relief management would beg for if hundreds retired between now & 2011? It would be unreal.

65...when you say there are upwards of 1000 that have sick leave carried over, could you clarify...since I know of some that had 2200+ hours, I would be interested in your response

Additionally, the cost of insurance expensive...as they fall off the 74s they will bump into the 400s and 330s

What is shadow bidding?:confused:

Can you clarify this carrying over of sick time? My understanding (as someone who really didn't pay too much attention because, as a new hire, I really had no sick bank) is that all the sick bank above 300 hours that FNWA, err.... I mean Delta North, pilots had essentially went to subsidize DPMA to some degree. I don't get how any of our guys retained thousands of hours of sick time.

Did I miss something, or did some guy up in ANC come up with some scam I haven't thought of?

We are on the same sick as you...... 240 hours annually is what guys have to spend.

Heyas D4E,

Dunno if you're talking about the sick time or the pension, but with the pension, they can't just "cash out", as there is no lump sum option for the fNWA DB plan.

There IS a lump sum option for the "excess" plan that supplements the DB plan, which a small number of pilots qualify (for earnings beyond the TERFA limits), BUT, the excess plan is paid out of the general corporate revenue, but is not a part of, and has no effect on, the DB plan itself.

All the fNWA pilots with monies due from the excess plan could take the lump sums tomorrow, and it wouldn't affect the DB fund one bit.

Nu

Have you written your union REP's today?

I think that if a Delta North pilot was on sick leave at DCC, then they retained their old sick leave balance. If they come back to fly after DCC, then it is converted to DPMA benefits like the active pilots. If they stay on sick then they can burn through their sick leave balance until they go on disability. I am not sure if this is totally correct, maybe someone else knows the real answer.

Just to clarify, any Delta North pilot who has an excess can ONLY take it in the form of a lump sum if he retires at age 60. If you retire early, no lump sum (or soup) for you!!

Carl