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Old 10-26-2010 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Yes, by buying another airline you are buying preexisting airframes and leases. We do not want to do what AMR is doing and buy a fleet a spanking new 73N's that in reality can and probably will fly to 2050. We want something we can dump in the next 15-20 years. Anything used in the NB market that compliments what we have fits in to that.
You're on the right track. In relative technological terms, the 737 is nearing the end of its competitive life cycle. Advancements in the next generation engine are significant and right around the corner. These advancements are significant enough to provide an operator a distinct advantage over a competitor. This advantage currently doesn't exist, especially when one blends in cost of capital of the new vs. pre-owned asset.
As long as you can provide a comparable cabin experience, the average passenger doesn't care what the plane looks like when booking a ticket.
As a launch customer, one can historically expect a "b i t c h i n' deal."
Old 10-26-2010 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
What then about the 764s from uCAL?

Someone explained to me btw why CAL can fly a 752, 753, 762 and 764 as one category and its because their aircraft are newer and the PFDs have tapes. But I don't think UAL's have the tapes. Not sure, maybe someone knows?

But if you have to seperate the categories and you're not a fan of the airplane anyways and you're about to have a fleet full of 777s... why not sell that odd ball aircraft to your competitor who also happens to be the only airline who operates the type other than you?

Or should we get as many 777s as we can given its capabilities? I mean we seem to fly 763s to where others fly 777s.
No, Delta should buy no new airplanes until the manufacturers make a decision to re-engine their product lines. For example, a geared turbo fan on a 747 would bring its CASM in line with that of a current 777, perhaps even better.
Old 10-26-2010 | 05:37 AM
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Stewart Mandell:
In all my travels, I'm not sure I've ever come across a fan base whose self-perception is so far from reality. Georgia fashions itself a national power in the vein of Ohio State, USC, et. al., based primarily off one glorious three-year run 30 years ago with Herschel Walker (and some kick-butt years in the 1940s). Prior to this season, the Dawgs under Richt had vastly outperformed their historical "equilibrium," and in fact Richt's career winning percentage (.752) is the highest in school history (not counting Bobby Winston's lone 5-1 season in 1894).

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz111U7kkY0

Richt = Fulmer..... Phil had the highest winning percentage of any active coach until around 2005.. or something like that. It is a truly "what have you done for me lately" business. Heck.. look at this: Home - FireCoachMeyer.com
Old 10-26-2010 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
No, Delta should buy no new airplanes until the manufacturers make a decision to re-engine their product lines. For example, a geared turbo fan on a 747 would bring its CASM in line with that of a current 777, perhaps even better.
You might want to check out Delta's current 747 vs 777 CASM.
Old 10-26-2010 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by vprMatrix
You might want to check out Delta's current 747 vs 777 CASM.

Link? Source?
Old 10-26-2010 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by vprMatrix
You might want to check out Delta's current 747 vs 777 CASM.
That is true, but remember the current rates on the 747 are dirt cheap due to the bankruptcy. I'm talking about a side by side comparison if Delta bought new airplanes.
Old 10-26-2010 | 06:13 AM
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The 753 is the cheapest CASM followed by the 744.
Old 10-26-2010 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
"The lake it's been said never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early"
Nicely played Edmund Fitzgerald reference!
Old 10-26-2010 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The 753 is the cheapest CASM followed by the 744.

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Old 10-26-2010 | 06:25 AM
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CASM has to be adjusted for stage length. You can make a 707 look good compared to a 757 depending on stage length. My understanding is that when adjusted for stage length the 757-300 is the lowest CASM aircraft.
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