Bucking Bar

Carl,

If they hold a DPA vote, I was going to write in "Carl Spackler and my rent is too damn high"

scambo1

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tml#post896213

I know there is a resolution which is passing thru the various LECs about interim pay raises based upon SWAs rates applied to our 737s and then adjusted up or down for the other fleets. I attached the link above since SWA folks have made an effort to explain their pay system...its still a little smoke and mirror to me. However, from what I have gleaned, basically they make more that what their hourly rate would be.

IOW the pay numbers shown on the APC website are not actually per hour, but instead are per duty period. Short story for the simple math, their actual hourly rate would be the rate shown on APC multiplied by 1.13

The reason I am attempting to explain this is because even if we were to get the SWA rates, our proposal is to pay by the hour. SWA would still have a pilot pay cost DISadvantage if we got the mid-term pay raises.

Bucking Bar

Also, what kind of health care coverage does SWA have?

Columbia

Also what is very, very good about their contract has to do with their ability to trade, pick-up, drop, etc very easily. It's not too difficult over there for 4 year F/Os to make $150K/year (120 hours credit/month) while also having 16-17 days off. That and pay rates go hand in hand. Also, want to drop the whole month? Pretty easy to do.

scambo1

C'mon Bar, dont play I've got a secret. Could it possibly be better that our world class system?

Pineapple Guy

scambo, you've got that backwards. Here's the footnote on the bottom of the LUV page:

[above figures were converted from $/trip to $/hour]

So the rates posted ARE estimated hourly rates, after using a factor (1.13?) to convert their trip pay to an estimated hourly rate.

scambo1

PG
Follow the link and see what the SWA folks say.

hockeypilot44

Am I the only reserve pilot that feels like I work just about every single reserve day? It's been like this since March.

Too Tall

What base and aircraft? Just curious what I'm getting into. I'm going to MSP MD-88 reserve

johnso29

No. I've broke guarantee every month since March. I can't stop working. July I was scheduled to work every single reserve day. Another one of our fellow FOs broke 90 hours last month no vacation, no GS flying. It never slows down.