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If the old AWABS worked so fantastic, why did we need to change to pushing without AWABS? The answer is obvious. The old AWABS didn't work. It was killing on time performance BEFORE employee integration. That's why management felt like they needed to make this change after integration. It's really quite simple...if the old AWABS worked "fantastic", we would still be using it.

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 897357)

Having used MGL extensively prior to using the "pure" DAL AWABS, I vastly preferred AWABS.

I couldn't disagree more. AWABS is an embarrassing easter egg hunt for information. Totally scattered and disorganized. Topping it all off by manually entering V speeds even though the FMC is totally capable of doing it automatically. MGL was perfectly organized, gave you only the information that you needed and none of what you don't, and was so easy that crews could input all data quickly and safely while taxiing out. This is because we allowed the FMC software to work the way it was designed.

Carl

Carl Spackler

11-07-2010 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 897393)

I look forward to a new best of everything system. The bulletins and procedural changes are beginning to leave my pea brain in the dust. I know it isnt what you folks had to go thru- with training by memo- but my brain is smaller or there is just less room in it.

Me too brother...me too!

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 897393)

Just a complete side note here - commuted up to DTW the other day in the back row of a -9. No kidding, when we touched down, I didnt know it - until the reversers went out - its pretty loud back there. I just wonder if I had a NewK sighting.:D

It could have been. I hear he is THE man!

Carl

Carl Spackler

11-07-2010 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 897404)

We weren't trying to fly French airplanes. We ended up with a couple once, but we sold them, kept the pilots and tried to forget the nightmare of AirBi product support.

TLAR works pretty well, based on experience. (no offense to any Air Force pilots, "yes Sir, we really do need to calculate crosswind component and brief it an hour before the landing, then debrief, write an opinion piece for the Chief Line Check Airman and study the appendix to Vol II, it really IS great you went to "the" Academy and some how work that into every briefing, twice")

Jeesh, I need to get off the web board before I get myself into trouble here. :eek:

Too late. But that was damn funny!

Carl

Ferd149

11-07-2010 06:32 AM

I've always been amazed with both sides when we get into these discussions. In general, a pilot will be the LAST guy to say, "That's the way it's always been done, leave it alone". Until you start talking about their "stuff", then you get "it ain't broke, leave it alone".

AWABS is an easter egg hunt. FPS (just like MGL and World Flight) is like an old house in serious need of paint. But, we appear to have money, lets get siding AND redo the bath and kitchen while we're at it.

fNWA guys ain't the enemy, we just want to push the easy button again...........and we want to share the easy button:cool:.

Ferd

satchip

11-07-2010 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 897277)

I don't think there is a person in American under 45 that did not benefit from PBS. GMAFB

Your kids are probably watching Sesame Street as you write this.

That was before the explosion of choices. If PBS is so important now let them fund themselves. We can't afford it any more.

tsquare

11-07-2010 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 897465)

That was before the explosion of choices. If PBS is so important now let them fund themselves. We can't afford it any more.

Bama = Citrus Bowl.... You heard it here first!

How bout them VOLS!?

Ferd149

11-07-2010 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 897466)

Bama = Citrus Bowl.... You heard it here first!

How bout them VOLS!?

Yeah must be nice

Oh well, as I say every year..............next year:mad:

ASU football's bowl hopes looking grim after gut-wrenching loss at USC

Ferd

Carl Spackler

11-07-2010 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 897466)

Bama = Citrus Bowl.... You heard it here first!

How bout them VOLS!?

Vols are doing great, but did you see those Monsters at Auburn? Holy ****!

Carl

volav8r1

11-07-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 897466)

Bama = Citrus Bowl.... You heard it here first!

How bout them VOLS!?

Went to the game! The Vols looked pretty good now that Bray is the starter. The Liberty Bowl was awash with orange, looked like a Tennessee home game. Now if we can just win out and get a Bowl invitation maybe Dooley can right the ship!

ExAF	11-07-2010 09:03 AM

Boy Howdy

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 897301)

How did we ever fly airplanes until you came along to show us how?

I've often asked myself the same question. ;)

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Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 897321)

Lots of airlines flew to lots of places using several systems.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm excited about getting things better than any of us had premerger. Life and work get easier..........the company makes money so we all make more money.

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Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 897461)

Here Here...Bring on the Easy Button! :D I don't care where it comes from!

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