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IrishTiger 11-07-2010 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Jughead (Post 897664)
Agreed. Sad that a guy in the peak of his career probably just threw away everything he's worked for, for the last 20+ years, for a few drinks on the layover.

How did it get that far? What was he thinking? Where was someone else on the crew to say, "dude, you're sick, call in sick. Now. If you don't, I'll do it for you."?

Sad that his wife? college aged kids? now wonder how things will ever be the same again.

Look out for your crew. Your career is extremely fragile - use your head and take care of each other.


Good post. Absolutely make the guy call in sick. If I was in that situation (being the sober pilot) and the drunk one didn't want to call in, I'D call in sick. That flight will not leave, and I'll do everything I can to protect the other guy. After we get back to the hotel, we'll be sitting down to have a little chat.

ronnie75 11-07-2010 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by IrishTiger (Post 897706)
Good post. Absolutely make the guy call in sick. If I was in that situation (being the sober pilot) and the drunk one didn't want to call in, I'D call in sick. That flight will not leave, and I'll do everything I can to protect the other guy. After we get back to the hotel, we'll be sitting down to have a little chat.


Easier said than done. Seriously. Do you you think he had a sign hanging around his neck?

DAL 88 Driver 11-07-2010 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by IrishTiger (Post 897706)
Good post. Absolutely make the guy call in sick. If I was in that situation (being the sober pilot) and the drunk one didn't want to call in, I'D call in sick.

So let's say you (the sober one) call in sick. Your airline reroutes another pilot to take your place for that flight. Now what?

chuck416 11-07-2010 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 897723)
So let's say you (the sober one) call in sick. Your airline reroutes another pilot to take your place for that flight. Now what?

Do any of you guys remember, oh, about 10 years ago when a Captain was brought up on charges. He was charged with having SHOULD have know that his first officer was intoxicated while reporting for duty? The Captain had a B.A.C. of 0%, F/O was, well, over the limit. And the Captain was brought up on charges as well as the F/O. As I recall, the charges initially stuck. It happened at Chitakatwa (SP?), as I recall, but that may not be right....Can anybody help fill in the details???
Chuck

forgot to bid 11-07-2010 06:02 PM

I've heard about this, on my interview, Capt... oh wait, this isn't an interview question?

Damn.

Well, you got his i.d., call in sick for him. The problem is when its border line. You hardly know the guy, you might not have been with him wherever he was the night before, you're sitting there wondering, is he? I know when a buddy is plowed, I don't know as quickly when it's someone I hardly know.

forgot to bid 11-07-2010 06:06 PM

FWIW, as to short call, thanks to the excessive WS's that go out on the 88 in ATL a PM short call equates to around 8-9am, sometimes 1030 sometimes as late as 1130am!

AM is 4am. It's been a long time since I was awarded anything after 12 much less 1 or 2 in the afternoon. So rarely does PM mean PM.

chuck416 11-07-2010 06:10 PM

Different thread...
Today, Sunday, I had short-call from 6:00am-6:00pm. I checked around 12:30pm or so, and saw that we had two guys on S/C tomorrow, and that I was assigned long call for tomorrow. At 7:44PM, I got a call from (404) area code. At first, I thought "cha-ching, Green slip!!!" When I answered, the scheduler, very polite, as always, said something like "can ya' help us out tomorrow, we need you on another short-call, from 7:30-7:30". I live in base, so I said "sure, got it, no problem". My question is, having answered the phone already, what are my options. Can I refuse the S/C, and hold onto my L/C tomorrow? I'm not trying to bust anybody's chops or anything. I just want to know what my obligations are, under those circumstances. Oh, yeah. I asked the guy at C/S what the deal was, and he indicated that a couple of guys have called in sick. I haven't checked the reserve list yet, but wanted to see what you guys think. Much thanks.
Chuck

acl65pilot 11-07-2010 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 897640)
You can't generate an "out time" on PMDL aircraft without the main cabin door closed. Spread the word. Bust that myth.


The difference is that we use Main Doors closed and Red Beacon, whereas the PMNWA jets use Main Cabin doors and parking brake.

acl65pilot 11-07-2010 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingViking (Post 897671)
I think you missed the point, why 3:30AM..... Nothing against shortcalls, do them all the time.



100% Agreed.


Simple a 0500 report in LGA for a 0600 launch to ATL. That is why the NYC 7ER has it.

slowplay 11-07-2010 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 897747)
The difference is that we use Main Doors closed and Red Beacon, whereas the PMNWA jets use Main Cabin doors and parking brake.

Not on all the south fleet, and that's part of the problem. I think the 777 and some versions of the 737 have different wiring.


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