Not what I was saying. I do think though, that people who accept the wages that they do, should not question the rates that people like Carl work for.

As far as your last statement, helping to create something does not make you a hypocrit, at worst it makes you a party to it. We are all to blame for this predicament we are in. You for doing it and me for allowing it.

Actually it's never been tested...It's a bit of a grey area...Under the RLA, you would be free to strike...

There are other options...In 1998, the ASA pilots worked to rule because the NMB wouldn't release them...That works just as well as a strike...If you work to rule, the airline comes to a screaching halt....and you still get a paycheck....

What do you think of folks that take jobs at mainline carriers for "substandard pay"? Why don't you just quit and go somewhere you can be payed what you think you are worth.

You sure like to blame others...But I don't see what you are doing to fix things....Looks to me like you are throwing stones from your glass house....

I only question his pay because he is lecturing others who are trying to make a career just like he is...It's easy for him to lecture those of us who started in a career that he helped drag down....

He is a hypocrit because he doesn't do what he preaches....He should quit because he isn't being payed what he thinks he should be making.....I'm not going to take a lecture from a mainline pilot who is making about $150 dollars an hour to fly a 747.....I made 100K flying a turboprop last year....I am not the problem....

Joe,

You came into our house and started throwing stones.

Carl's got a heck of a job, one I hope to have some day.

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New Delta North FMC procedures? Anyone got anything "Latest and Greatest" about Delta?

There is an interesting economic analysis that says hub and spoke does not work, not sure I agree:

Tracing the Woes: An Empirical Analysis of the Airline Industry

Carl, we are all to blame for this. All of us know that those new pilots looking for their first airline job have no idea what a union is and what they are doing by accepting 15K a year. It falls on us to educate our future pilots. All medical students know that to be successful they need to be certified by the AMA, we can do that to. It will take a lot of work, but it will help with this issue.

100 K a year busting your six.

A FO at DAL can make that after a few years too, what is your point. It took you 15 years to get there. Plus, you had a contract signing/payback bonus last year.

Actually the bonus was in 2007....The 100K didn't include the bonus....I averaged 15 days of a month and had 18 off many months.....I had two nap months that credited almost 100 hours each month...

The thing I have is I have control of my schedule...Controlling my schedule and time off is the most important thing to me....

I didn't "bust my 6" and have mainline friends who work more days than I do....

If you make $100 an hour flying a turboprop then you are not the problem. 83ish hours a month times 12...

If, however, you go to work for a company at a substandard wage then I assert that you are. Did I allow this to happen? Yes, but only because I would not fly a jet for $70 an hour.

Call it what you will... Hypocrite seems wrong to me.

Is an Inverse Assignment a better deal than a Green Slip?

Actually I only made $90 an hour flying a turboprop, but we have a lot of "soft time" credits....I had one month of 120 hours pay with only 85 hours of flying....Seniority and knowing the "system" helps...

How is anyone supposed to enter this career with your philosophy? The pay sucks at the bottom everywhere and is one of the reasons I am not going to start over again at the bottom.....Everyone who goes to work in this business does so for a substandard wage....a substandard wage that the union negotiated....I hardly see how that is the fault of someone who is looking for a job.....