Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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Another situation not foreseen by the software engineers, and not covered in any "system CD", solved by "pilots". What happens when we run out of real pilots that were actually trained by real people, actually understand aircraft systems, and actually can make decisions?
Joking aside, this crew did a remarkable job, but the sad thing, aside from the passengers on that specific flight, most of the flying public will forget about it in a few weeks.
I've always loved how people say that the largest percentage of aviation accidents are due to pilot error.
My response to that is, well how many accidents are due to mechanical, weather, or other failures? Probably a lot less because there was a competent, experienced pilot preventing it.
The only in-flight emergencies most people remember are the ones that end in tragedy.
Bottoms up to this crew for a job well done!
Another situation not foreseen by the software engineers, and not covered in any "system CD", solved by "pilots". What happens when we run out of real pilots that were actually trained by real people, actually understand aircraft systems, and actually can make decisions?
PCS swap w/ the pot question: Is there a precedence order that it follows, ie W/S, G/S, etc? I have trip A on 12DEC that I want to swap with trip B on 15DEC for more credit. Will it run on the next PCS cycle, or does it wait until the date gets closer? No rules violations or conflicting trips. Thanks.
Green slips and reserve yellow slips are only for "same day/next day".
White slips go before swaps in the "beyond next day" awards.
Approval of trip swaps that aren't identical days depends heavily on reserve coverage.
Good luck. December is always tough.
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Really important point you bring up there! I see a "perfect storm" being created right now that is going to cause some serious accidents in the future. Dumbed down training combined with paying HALF for airline pilots is a very careless and reckless thing to do! This profession cannot possibly be attracting the same caliber people (in general) as it has typically attracted. And then you take people who just aren't as sharp and give them watered down training. It's an accident waiting to happen IMO.
PCS for the following month doesn't start til the 20th.
Green slips and reserve yellow slips are only for "same day/next day".
White slips go before swaps in the "beyond next day" awards.
Approval of trip swaps that aren't identical days depends heavily on reserve coverage.
Good luck. December is always tough.
Green slips and reserve yellow slips are only for "same day/next day".
White slips go before swaps in the "beyond next day" awards.
Approval of trip swaps that aren't identical days depends heavily on reserve coverage.
Good luck. December is always tough.
I was trying to finger out what the hell that was in you avatar. I have seen it before, now I got it.

It's the
Kia Soul Hamster Rap Goes Viral
I'm not sure what it means, but it's got a catchy tune....

Do, Dah, Dipty!
Last edited by Amish Pilot; 11-19-2010 at 11:34 AM.
Yes. First PCS run for DEC is at 0700 Eastern on 20NOV.
Last edited by Check Essential; 11-19-2010 at 07:46 AM.
I saw this on a different board, more a pilot-summary of what happened:
Here are just SOME of the problems Richard had in Singapore last week
aboard QF32…. I won’t bother mentioning the engine explosion!....
oops… mentioned the engine explosion, sorry…..
* massive fuel leak in the left mid fuel tank (the beast has 11
tanks, including in the horizontal stabiliser on the tail)
* massive fuel leak in the left inner fuel tank
* a hole on the flap canoe/fairing that you could fit your upper body through
* the aft gallery in the fuel system failed, preventing many fuel
transfer functions
* fuel jettison had problems due to the previous problem above
* bloody great hole in the upper wing surface
* partial failure of leading edge slats
* partial failure of speed brakes/ground spoilers
* shrapnel damage to the flaps
* TOTAL loss of all hydraulic fluid in the Green System (beast has 2
x 5,000 PSI systems, Green and Yellow)
* manual extension of landing gear
* loss of 1 generator and associated systems
* loss of brake anti-skid system
* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using normal method after
landing due to major damage to systems
* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using using the fire
switch!!!!!!!! Therefore, no fire protection was available for that
engine after the explosion in #2
* ECAM warnings about major fuel imbalance because of fuel leaks on
left side, that were UNABLE to be fixed with cross-feeding
* fuel trapped in Trim Tank (in the tail). Therefore, possible major
CofG out-of-balance condition for landing. Yikes!
* and much more to come….......
Richard was in the left seat, FO in the right), SO in the 2nd obs seat
(right rear, also with his own Radio Management Panel, so he probably
did
most of the coordination with the ground), Capt Dave Evans in the 1st
obs seat (middle). He is a Check & Training Captain who was training
Harry
Wubbin to be one also. Harry was in the 3rd obs seat (left rear).
All 5 guys were FLAT OUT busy, especially the FO who would have been
processing complicated ‘ECAM’ messages and procedures that were
seemingly never-ending!
Here are just SOME of the problems Richard had in Singapore last week
aboard QF32…. I won’t bother mentioning the engine explosion!....
oops… mentioned the engine explosion, sorry…..
* massive fuel leak in the left mid fuel tank (the beast has 11
tanks, including in the horizontal stabiliser on the tail)
* massive fuel leak in the left inner fuel tank
* a hole on the flap canoe/fairing that you could fit your upper body through
* the aft gallery in the fuel system failed, preventing many fuel
transfer functions
* fuel jettison had problems due to the previous problem above
* bloody great hole in the upper wing surface
* partial failure of leading edge slats
* partial failure of speed brakes/ground spoilers
* shrapnel damage to the flaps
* TOTAL loss of all hydraulic fluid in the Green System (beast has 2
x 5,000 PSI systems, Green and Yellow)
* manual extension of landing gear
* loss of 1 generator and associated systems
* loss of brake anti-skid system
* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using normal method after
landing due to major damage to systems
* unable to shutdown adjacent #1 engine using using the fire
switch!!!!!!!! Therefore, no fire protection was available for that
engine after the explosion in #2
* ECAM warnings about major fuel imbalance because of fuel leaks on
left side, that were UNABLE to be fixed with cross-feeding
* fuel trapped in Trim Tank (in the tail). Therefore, possible major
CofG out-of-balance condition for landing. Yikes!
* and much more to come….......
Richard was in the left seat, FO in the right), SO in the 2nd obs seat
(right rear, also with his own Radio Management Panel, so he probably
did
most of the coordination with the ground), Capt Dave Evans in the 1st
obs seat (middle). He is a Check & Training Captain who was training
Harry
Wubbin to be one also. Harry was in the 3rd obs seat (left rear).
All 5 guys were FLAT OUT busy, especially the FO who would have been
processing complicated ‘ECAM’ messages and procedures that were
seemingly never-ending!
Thanks to AmishPilot, I think I know what it is now. I figured it was some S-Central LA reference or something - you know, something us in the Midwest have no idea about, until we bump into it on our LAX overnight!
Really important point you bring up there! I see a "perfect storm" being created right now that is going to cause some serious accidents in the future. Dumbed down training combined with paying HALF for airline pilots is a very careless and reckless thing to do! This profession cannot possibly be attracting the same caliber people (in general) as it has typically attracted. And then you take people who just aren't as sharp and give them watered down training. It's an accident waiting to happen IMO.
A Pinnacle RJ with no pax over Missouri and a Colgan Q-400 with 50 people in Buffalo.
Two "professional airline crews" who basically didn't understand the fundamentals of aerodynamics or the machinery they were operating.
It will eventually work its way to the majors.
We are "coasting" on 50 years of safety momentum right now.
Last edited by Check Essential; 11-19-2010 at 07:47 AM.
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