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Old 11-22-2010, 02:41 PM
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The bottom line on the fleet captains is that 99% of us will never know or care who they are. Unless you bust a training event, you'll probably never even meet them. They don't impact your life. If they're good leaders and managers of people, who gives a **** what they have flown or not flown?
Yes, I actually care. I think it's representation around a conference table somewhere. Another perspective if you will because no, everything isn't as good as it could be. I for one want my "easy button" back

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Its a managerial position that oversees sim schedules, instructors, etc. In reality, they have very little impact on operations and/or policies.
Ok, then who is responsible for operations and/or policies? Who is that on the Whale, A330 and the A320? If I don't understand the wire diagram, please edumakate me.............honestly, I'm not being a jerk, I want to know.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
I figure with the fleet Captains not being tied to a specific fleet, the next step will be to have LCA's doing some sim work so that our training mirrors the line. I have heard a few errant comments about this over the past six months, and it seemed that they were leaning in that direction.

As I understood it, reverting back to a one sided training command was something they were looking at. I suspect that to get a better transition from schoolhouse to line that may be the way many are pushing. Just a guess though based on a few comments here and there.
All of the current sim instructors on the North side, were LCA...they did both jobs, the philosophy of training was "train as you fly, fly as you train." It makes it much easier when the student asks "how's it really done" vs "oh you will learn how its done on the line."
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax View Post
You mean just like NWA did it. In my opinion as a LCA it produces a better product out the door. You don't end up with such a disconnect between the schoolhouse and the line. I can't tell you how many times I have heard my students say they were told "don't worry about that, you'll get that on OE" I realize some of this cannot be taught in the sim but it is much better to have a sim instructor who has been flying the line and can provide some real world "best practices"

I have worked under both types of systems at my former airline. I worked the transition to a Standards department, and there are pluses and minuses to both. I do agree that the product from start to finish is more "big picture."
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by reddog25 View Post
Harrassment by management on ML is picking up again.
I mil leave at least two weeks of every month. I'm in the Gulf this Thanksgiving. If by "harassment," you mean having my Chief Pilot and my Assistant Chief Pilot thank me for my service, then I've been duly harassed.
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Old 11-22-2010, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat View Post
The bottom line on the fleet captains is that 99% of us will never know or care who they are. Unless you bust a training event, you'll probably never even meet them. They don't impact your life. If they're good leaders and managers of people, who gives a **** what they have flown or not flown? Its a managerial position that oversees sim schedules, instructors, etc. In reality, they have very little impact on operations and/or policies.
Case in point was that prior the merger the DAL-S Fleet Captains were all retired former Captains.

The philosophy of checklist et al comes from the Director of training, the nuts and bolts come from the technical experts. The Fleet Captain signs off on the changes. From what I am told, having one Fleet Captain over multiple fleets will allow that person to see areas in which we can harmonize our product and procedures to the line pilot. My take away was that it will allow for more policies and procedures to be similar across fleets thus making the transition easier.
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:30 PM
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Has anyone heard or have any info on the LGA slot swap?
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 View Post
Yes, I actually care. I think it's representation around a conference table somewhere. Another perspective if you will because no, everything isn't as good as it could be. I for one want my "easy button" back

Ok, then who is responsible for operations and/or policies? Who is that on the Whale, A330 and the A320? If I don't understand the wire diagram, please edumakate me.............honestly, I'm not being a jerk, I want to know.
Ferd, fair enough. Go to the Intranet, look to the right under Admin and choose the Flight Ops Organizational Chart. See if you can find the Fleet Captains. Not being a jerk either, just trying to explain as clearly as I possibly can how much of the consternation from some fnwa guys about the fleet captain is much ado about nothing.
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:39 PM
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Firstmob;
I would expect and announcement in coincident with the new US House and the LUV-AAI DOJ approval. Just my guess though.
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:45 PM
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ML, what does your paycheck and uniform say? "They" are you.
The uniform may be one thing but the ever shrinking paycheck is not making a particularly impressive statement, and plainly put a lot of us "just aren't feeling the love yet" so included as delta seems to have a ways to go.
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Old 11-22-2010, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
Totally off the topic here, but do any of you know if Delta offers some partial reimbursement towards a health club membership? I vaguely remember either reading or hearing about this at some point. I'm thinking it was like $200/yr -- I pay $50/mo. now, but will happily take whatever I can get.

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Well there was a story on Deltanet today about 2 new healthclubs opening in ATL. I think I saw it was $20 a month. I dint know about reimbursement though.
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