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Old 11-22-2010, 10:48 AM
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The worst part may be that the flight returning to ATL had a tail strike on landing.
Look for some additional single engine landing practice in next year's recurrent.
Contact, or damage?
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:55 AM
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Contact, or damage?

If you tag it on landing youre at the very least scraping sheet metal...
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Old 11-22-2010, 10:57 AM
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I have not heard how bad. Just that they hit the tail.
Probably not good. Landing strikes are always worse than take-off.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:15 AM
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I have not heard how bad. Just that they hit the tail.
Probably not good. Landing strikes are always worse than take-off.

Don't you have to help the nose down on a 767 and keep the 757 from slamming the nose down? Guess we now know that you REALLY have to help the nose down when your super duper premium heavy....and on one engine.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:21 AM
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I don't think the north types realize the limited roll that fleet captains play.

The airline is line oriented and much of the standards stuff comes from the LCP side of things. Of course the way this push without numbers stuff was designed and implemented I've got to wonder....
If the fleet captain has a limited roll...why even have them...where does the standards captains fall in this line oriented group?
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:29 AM
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Delta has just issued the following statement to news media about IAM representation being rejected by Delta TechOps stores employees. Please continue to monitor DNN for updates on this breaking story.

“Once again our people have decided that Delta’s direct relationship between employees and leaders works. This is the eighth workgroup in which representation was resolved since Delta’s merger, resulting in no union for the more than 41,000 employees in these groups. We urge the IAM and AFA to respect our people’s choice and the will of the majority. Delta people have patiently waited two years to have their pay, benefits, work rules, and seniority aligned. It’s time to move forward.”
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:29 AM
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I don't think the north types realize the limited roll that fleet captains play.

The airline is line oriented and much of the standards stuff comes from the LCP side of things. Of course the way this push without numbers stuff was designed and implemented I've got to wonder....
I respectfully have to disagree. The Fleet Captains are suppose to be the experts on their aircraft. That is tough to do if you've never flown the aircraft. It is true the LCP's receive their direction from the Chief LCP but it is the fleet captain that recommends any procedure changes to Flight Standards.
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:29 AM
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Don't you have to help the nose down on a 767 and keep the 757 from slamming the nose down? Guess we now know that you REALLY have to help the nose down when your super duper premium heavy....and on one engine.

Both the 767 and 757 have a nose up moment on speedbrake deployment on touchdown. The reversers deploying help counter act that... the most critical I found was when the auto speedbrake was deferred and you have to make sure the other guy doesnt just yank it back. Things could get interesting quick then!
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:48 AM
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Both the 767 and 757 have a nose up moment on speedbrake deployment on touchdown. The reversers deploying help counter act that... the most critical I found was when the auto speedbrake was deferred and you have to make sure the other guy doesnt just yank it back. Things could get interesting quick then!
So the speedbrakes do not auto deploy?
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Old 11-22-2010, 11:51 AM
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Why does anyone care who the fleet captain is?
If you are a fnw pilot then the answer to that is that "if you have to ask then you probably wouldn't understand"....More acutely is the observation that there are virtually no fnw management pilots left at delta in anything resembling a position higher than base chief pilot, they have all been culled out.
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