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Old 11-10-2010, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by flh57 View Post
Does anyone know what type of a/c will do these flights?
I would suspect a KLM, ALL Nippon or AirFrance widebody of some sort.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King View Post
Where does a RP sit in a 737?

They stay in the forward closet along with the FO's overnight bag.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog View Post
So I see we are going to start flying the 737 to Bogota from NYC. We currently have the 757 on it and if I am not mistaken we have 3 pilots on board for the saftey factor of the flight not because of rest requirements. So moving it to the 737 alleviates the saftey?
Why do you need a 3rd pilot? Is it more than 8 hours? Doubt it.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog View Post
So I see we are going to start flying the 737 to Bogota from NYC. We currently have the 757 on it and if I am not mistaken we have 3 pilots on board for the saftey factor of the flight not because of rest requirements. So moving it to the 737 alleviates the saftey?
What does the "safety factor of the flight" mean?

I don't see a RP being necessary since the block time looks to be about 6-7 hours.

That's a haul to be crammed in that thing for so long. I remember doing a 7+ block on the -800 from BOS-LAX one time - not fun.
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Old 11-11-2010, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
What does the "safety factor of the flight" mean?

I don't see a RP being necessary since the block time looks to be about 6-7 hours.

That's a haul to be crammed in that thing for so long. I remember doing a 7+ block on the -800 from BOS-LAX one time - not fun.

Bogata is a very unusual airport with many problems and issues. It was felt that since the flight was flown back side of the clock putting a RP pilot onboard was a good safety practice. Details were worked out between the company and union. It was and is a good practice given the airport and the rest issues on that rotation. Its a nice example of doing something right even when not required by the FAA.
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog View Post
So I see we are going to start flying the 737 to Bogota from NYC. We currently have the 757 on it and if I am not mistaken we have 3 pilots on board for the saftey factor of the flight not because of rest requirements. So moving it to the 737 alleviates the saftey?
There should be a third pilot on any flight that does JFK-BOG - there is a Memo of Understanding (#13) that specifies the route, not the aircraft type.
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Old 11-11-2010, 04:53 AM
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I was just perusing the UCAL thread for whatever reason. It reminds me of the DAL NWA thread that was running on the ALPA national page pre-merger. Those were some angry defensive days. I hope it all works out for them.

Group hug!

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Old 11-11-2010, 05:42 AM
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I didn't know about the MOU for BOG, but I looked at the NY ER Dec parings and it has an A,B line and a B line for the RP, the route shifts to the 73 mid month, and there is only one line with A,B. The flight into Bog is now not on the backside of the clock though.

I looked up the MoU #13 and did not see anything that had to do with Bogota, it had to do with the ASAP program.

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Old 11-11-2010, 09:03 AM
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:05 AM
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Super, and to anyone else. Call you Security Chair and Vice Chair about your concerns. I am sure they want to hear from you.
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