Buzz,

When I went through at BWI they had three guys at the computer, maybe they were training, but I don't think so. You know we need more government jobs to get this economy rolling.

 

Can The airlines write off the expense if they paid for it?

 

Plus we all know good and well that the tsa isn't understaffed by any stretch of the imagination so why not use current gubment TSA resources to man the crewpass desk?

AND since when has the gubment cared about costs anyway?

 

Well, that's not over staffed... have you heard the one about "How many TSA officers does it take to change a lightbulb?" -

No? Why don't you step through this AIT scanner and we'll tell you.

 

The third Pilot functions as door-gunner below 10K feet. After all - this is Columbia we are talking about.

Scoop

 

The way that Crewpass will be set up, there is more to the cost than the TSA agent checking everything at security. The 50 bucks per pilot has more to do with the security of the program and database costs.

 

You really need to get up off your knees. You sound like LM at a birthday party. ALPA's response to this farce is limp at best.

 

Because it is a backside of the clock flight into the mountains.. and I mean REAL mountains..... FE is 8400'.. ITCZ... and you have been up all night besides. It is a good thing that the company has done that with the 757, and I certainly hope they do it with the 737.

 

I don't know why any pilots are volunteering money to pay for CrewPass.

It will end up being in each airlines best interest to pay the CrewPass fee and write it off as an expense.

Pilots, in general have a pretty low BS tolerance level. As more and more pilots "opt-out" of the machine scan, the TSA pat down lines will get longer and longer and soon will start affecting the D-0 performance.

Like most things, airline managements react quicker to things that cost them lots of money or might cost them money (potential upcoming legislation), than things that are conveniences.

This issue is scaling exponentially due in large part to online media sites like The Drudge Report. It will reach critical mass sooner rather than later and will start costing the airlines money and what little good will is left from their paying customers.

It's one thing for a passenger to miss a flight because it took them forever to get through the security back log. It is quite another when entire flights or maybe every flight at a major airport is late because the crews are stuck in the backlog of security caused by crew AND passengers choosing to opt out. At that point the $50 per crewmember will look realllllyy cheap.

 

Come on acl. This is a webboard. We MUCH prefer RHETORIC over RESULTS.

BTW, has USAPA or APA actually done anything about this other than beat their chests with a big pronouncement? Easy to yell and scream. It's harder to effect change. As usual, ALPA will ultimately be the hammer to find a solution to this.