Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-30-2010 | 05:53 AM
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From: Kickin’ Back
The ability to bank 60 hours and save them for later has not changed at all. What changed is the way we bid, PBS, and the way we get paid for the month. With line of time bidding and the moveup process (known and blind) to both regular and reserve lines, you could easily get in the 85 to 95 hour credit range for a month. Then with a hard cap on hours you could get paid for the month, say 75, the only thing you could do was put these extra hours in the bank.
AAAHHHHH the good ole days!!!!!!
Denny
AAAHHHHH the good ole days!!!!!!
Denny
11-30-2010 | 06:40 AM
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Had a DCI pilot on a positive space the other day on a oversold flight. Asked if he would give up his seat to help other non revs get on(no other jumpseaters). Once airborne we got to talking and he was going out to cover Ual express flying. Are they allowed to use pos. space, bump Dal revenue and non revs for another airlines flying? If not, who do I contact? If so, this is BS.
11-30-2010 | 07:01 AM
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ok ac please let me know what u think. I got called for an inverse assignment at 230 am this morning. I am on long call and have and haven't had short call in a week. They said I was unable to do it for "rest req."....? what? I haven't worked or sc in a week. They said it is whitlow rest req. I asked them about 20 times to check it didn't seem right. I understand sc has rest req. but long call?
You need a day off. But that's not Whitlow.
What probably happened is the report time was in less than nine hours. When you are on long call you are not "resting" for Whitlow purposes. You have to be able to satisfy the look-back requirements even if you were not on short call. That's why we have the 12 hour report for long call guys. When they call you and give you a trip you have a 12 hour duty free period (no phone responsibility) prior to report. (or 10 hours prior to starting short call). That's Whitlow.
Seems odd they would call before they checked your legality. Normally the computer would instantly tell them you can't fly the trip and they would just skip you.
edit: We're talking domestic I assume. International is different.
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11-30-2010 | 07:14 AM
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From: LAX ERA
Rough:
Do what you can to make the game. To say it's 'The Grand Daddy' is putting it mildly. Saw the ASU/OSU game in '96 with 'Jake the Snake' leading the Sun Devils, and we gave the game away. (Missed ASU's debut-victory against Mihigan while 'Defending Freedom" and flying for the Navy.)
Float building, New Year's Eve, parade, and FOOTBALL?
GO!
Good Luck and Enjoy.
Do what you can to make the game. To say it's 'The Grand Daddy' is putting it mildly. Saw the ASU/OSU game in '96 with 'Jake the Snake' leading the Sun Devils, and we gave the game away. (Missed ASU's debut-victory against Mihigan while 'Defending Freedom" and flying for the Navy.)
Float building, New Year's Eve, parade, and FOOTBALL?
GO!
Good Luck and Enjoy.
I agree, go to a Rose Bowl! My friends that could and did loved it!
Refugee, when were you at ASU?
Ferd
11-30-2010 | 07:16 AM
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If you've been on long call for a week then 24 in 7 would apply.
You need a day off. But that's not Whitlow.
What probably happened is the report time was in less than nine hours. When you are on long call you are not "resting" for Whitlow purposes. You have to be able to satisfy the look-back requirements even if you were not on short call. That's why we have the 12 hour report for long call guys. When they call you and give you a trip you have a 12 hour duty free period (no phone responsibility) prior to report. (or 10 hours prior to starting short call) That's Whitlow.
Seems odd they would call before they checked your legality. Normally the computer would instantly tell them you can't fly the trip and they would just skip you.
You need a day off. But that's not Whitlow.
What probably happened is the report time was in less than nine hours. When you are on long call you are not "resting" for Whitlow purposes. You have to be able to satisfy the look-back requirements even if you were not on short call. That's why we have the 12 hour report for long call guys. When they call you and give you a trip you have a 12 hour duty free period (no phone responsibility) prior to report. (or 10 hours prior to starting short call) That's Whitlow.
Seems odd they would call before they checked your legality. Normally the computer would instantly tell them you can't fly the trip and they would just skip you.
11-30-2010 | 07:16 AM
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Had a DCI pilot on a positive space the other day on a oversold flight. Asked if he would give up his seat to help other non revs get on(no other jumpseaters). Once airborne we got to talking and he was going out to cover Ual express flying. Are they allowed to use pos. space, bump Dal revenue and non revs for another airlines flying? If not, who do I contact? If so, this is BS.
11-30-2010 | 07:17 AM
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Had a DCI pilot on a positive space the other day on a oversold flight. Asked if he would give up his seat to help other non revs get on(no other jumpseaters). Once airborne we got to talking and he was going out to cover Ual express flying. Are they allowed to use pos. space, bump Dal revenue and non revs for another airlines flying? If not, who do I contact? If so, this is BS.
I'd run it through the chain starting with the CPO.
Nu
11-30-2010 | 07:20 AM
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If you've been on long call for a week then 24 in 7 would apply.
You need a day off. But that's not Whitlow.
What probably happened is the report time was in less than nine hours. When you are on long call you are not "resting" for Whitlow purposes. You have to be able to satisfy the look-back requirements even if you were not on short call. That's why we have the 12 hour report for long call guys. When they call you and give you a trip you have a 12 hour duty free period (no phone responsibility) prior to report. (or 10 hours prior to starting short call). That's Whitlow.
Seems odd they would call before they checked your legality. Normally the computer would instantly tell them you can't fly the trip and they would just skip you.
edit: We're talking domestic I assume. International is different.
You need a day off. But that's not Whitlow.
What probably happened is the report time was in less than nine hours. When you are on long call you are not "resting" for Whitlow purposes. You have to be able to satisfy the look-back requirements even if you were not on short call. That's why we have the 12 hour report for long call guys. When they call you and give you a trip you have a 12 hour duty free period (no phone responsibility) prior to report. (or 10 hours prior to starting short call). That's Whitlow.
Seems odd they would call before they checked your legality. Normally the computer would instantly tell them you can't fly the trip and they would just skip you.
edit: We're talking domestic I assume. International is different.
11-30-2010 | 07:22 AM
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From: LAX ERA
Hey!! What are you doing in your room on the computer?? Get your butt down to the awning for geyoza and to the 'sports bar' for WAY over priced (but at least the $$ is in the tank vs the yen) beer!!
Ferd
PS...........ACL is in Narita for his cherry boy tour
Ferd
PS...........ACL is in Narita for his cherry boy tour
11-30-2010 | 07:22 AM
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It's not so odd that the computer called everyone. I had this same thing happen to me a few months ago. The scheduler explained that in the past they would check to see if a line was legal and then call. However, since they've gone to robo-call, the computer calls everyone and then the scheduler has to individually check to see if its legal.
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