acl65pilot

They are the same answer. We need to get to 767 mainline jets before they can add one 76 seat jet to DCI. That was part of 09-01 which set the limits at 153 76 seat jets until mainline hits 767 then they can go 3 for 1.

acl65pilot

Correct. I am going off 49 total MD-90's not 49 more.

johnso29

I think you're right. The 16 MD90's we already had would be included in the original baseline #.

acl65pilot

Correct, they are. (Think it is 19 though)

I think you assumed by my words that the MD-90's would trigger more 76 deliveries. That is not the case unless we get above 767 (768th mainline airframe) Until we hit that mark they are capped at 153 76 seat jets.

Once we have a 768th jet they can take delivery of three more 76 seat jets for a total of 154 seat jets and a max of 255 70 and 76 seat jets. The hard limit is 255. Reroute states that we are 20 hulls away from that number so in effect we will need to have six mainline airframes added above the 767 limit for a total of 773. We are well away from that.

As he further mentions, DAL is taking delivery of 70 seaters, and not pushing for a relaxation of the 76 seat formula.

80ktsClamp

DAL 88 Driver

Exactly my point. It appears that the net effect of this is to increase RJ jobs and decrease mainline jobs.

I fully understand what is in the contract and that this is what we agreed to. I'm not so sure that a large percentage of our pilots fully realized what they were voting for. I can say that, personally, I never realized until now that this loophole existed where they can keep all the RJ's after parking mainline aircraft and not be over the limit. I guess I didn't pay that much attention to it because I already knew I was voting NO based on a lack of any significant progress towards restoration. But that's water under the bridge at this point.

What still concerns me is that we have an MEC Chairman who was our lead negotiator when this language was included in the JCBA, this same individual argued against a resolution who's main purpose was to shine a brighter light on scope, and as MEC Chairman so far he has demonstrated very little passion or even interest in scope.

Check Essential

O'Malley's speech at that LEC meeting was seriously disturbing.
I hope he has revised his views concerning the line pilots' right to know the facts about our scope clause.

johnso29

We have some seriously junior guys on our new NC, & 2 are FNWA DTW guys. It's going to be a lot harder to get the camels nose further under the tent IMO.

johnso29

I found this app on my iPhone the other day, & have wasted countless hours looking at these. LMAO!!

Reroute

Just to be clear, the mainline fleet number has 19 MD-90s in it. We have contracts for and deliveries of 30 more over the next 18 months. How many we ultimately get might be more than that.