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02-16-2011, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
How do I get "rolling thunder" going? I have a reserve line and I did get the 1st 4 days of the month off.
The days off have to be X days, not golden days. Then greenslip on those days. If you get a trip, you get the days paid back. Repeat the previous process.
02-16-2011, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
The days off have to be X days, not golden days. Then greenslip on those days. If you get a trip, you get the days paid back. Repeat the previous process.
02-16-2011, 09:58 AM
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02-16-2011, 09:59 AM
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I'm wondering if the Your Notifications: 1 is my infraction... hmmmm....
02-16-2011, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
I thought you couldn't GS while on reserve? How do you prevent the company from giving you golden days? Last month they just randomly gave me golden days and I never asked for them.
Golden days are contractual. If you don't bid them then the company will assign them on the days the company wants as long as they follow the contract. Days off on reserve are pro-rated depending on how many total days you have on reserve in a month. (Example: A week of vacation will reduce the amount of days on reserve by a week.) Golden days are also pro-rated. You can see the pro-rated tables in the beginning of the bid package for both xdays and golden days.
Yes you can put in a Greenslip to fly on reserve. The following is from Sec. 23 U of the contract:
b. A reserve pilot who has flown a GS rotation(s) will receive:
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV (applied against his reserve guarantee), and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:
a) interrupted his X-day(s), or
b) occurred after his accumulated credit equaled the ALV,
Note one: A reserve pilot who flies a GS rotation into an X-day(s) is entitled to additional time free of duty under
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV (applied against his reserve guarantee), and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:
a) interrupted his X-day(s), or
b) occurred after his accumulated credit equaled the ALV,
Note one: A reserve pilot who flies a GS rotation into an X-day(s) is entitled to additional time free of duty under
Section 23 S. 11.
Note two: A reserve pilot awarded a GS rotation in which all duty periods of the rotation are scheduled to operate on on-call days may request that one X-day that coincides with a day on which the pilot does not have a duty period within the GS rotation be moved to the first day of the GS rotation.
c. A long call reserve pilot who is awarded a GS rotation with a report that is within 12 hours of the first attempted contact will receive single pay, no credit for the first duty period of the rotation (in addition to any other pay and credit for the bid period).
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To get rolling thunder started in the beginning of the month, you have to have days off and get assigned a greenslip on them. Your days off roll over and you keep the GS in for the rest of the month. It's kind of hard to do unless your category is REAL short for the month. Not some thing I would take to the bank.
Denny
c. A long call reserve pilot who is awarded a GS rotation with a report that is within 12 hours of the first attempted contact will receive single pay, no credit for the first duty period of the rotation (in addition to any other pay and credit for the bid period).
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To get rolling thunder started in the beginning of the month, you have to have days off and get assigned a greenslip on them. Your days off roll over and you keep the GS in for the rest of the month. It's kind of hard to do unless your category is REAL short for the month. Not some thing I would take to the bank.
Denny
02-16-2011, 10:16 AM
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Thanks Denny!
02-16-2011, 10:24 AM
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I'm wondering if the Your Notifications: 1 is my infraction... hmmmm....
02-16-2011, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
I thought you couldn't GS while on reserve? How do you prevent the company from giving you golden days? Last month they just randomly gave me golden days and I never asked for them.
In regards to Golden Days, you can't prevent the company from giving you GD but you can pick/bid where you want them. You do this between the 17th-19th via icrew. In your case you want to put them on the back end of the month. You can only bid them in groups of 3.
Edit: Denny beat me.
02-16-2011, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Edit: Denny beat me.
02-16-2011, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Anyone can GS, even on reserve days. But if you're awarded a GS trip that falls on reserve days you're not going to get the full benefits of a GS. I have GS'd a 4 day where the 1st 2 days fell on X days. Those first 2 days were straight pay no credit and I received payback days. So I got the days off back, plus the pay was added to my min guarantee of 70 hours.
In regards to Golden Days, you can't prevent the company from giving you GD but you can pick/bid where you want them. You do this between the 17th-19th via icrew. In your case you want to put them on the back end of the month. You can only bid them in groups of 3.
Edit: Denny beat me.
In regards to Golden Days, you can't prevent the company from giving you GD but you can pick/bid where you want them. You do this between the 17th-19th via icrew. In your case you want to put them on the back end of the month. You can only bid them in groups of 3.
Edit: Denny beat me.
The benefit of rolling thunder is (using the assumption that the greenslip falls always on xdays) that you always get the days paid back - normally you would ask for the payback following any mandated rest, and if you keep the flying rolling, whatever you get paid will be in addition to the 70 hour guarantee.
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